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      I’m starting to think lead cups may be a good investment if she can drink from one for 200 years.

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    I mean I legitimately do understand why you’d be so upset if you really believe nothing has changed in 200 years. Because you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid and that shit hurts.

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      I think it’s a reference to the Stanley cup craze and subsequent tiktok posting about bioavailable lead in damaged ones

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        From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.

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          From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.

          Not sure if you missed it, but Stanley (the company) released an insulated drinking cup through Target that was limited edition and caused a minor craze. It’s not the Stanley cup, the NHL championship trophy.

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            It’s amazing how these blue collar companies have been able to position themselves at the center of a major cultural phenomenon. Especially since our culture tends to scoff at blue collar interests these days.

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              Honestly that’s what I thought people were talking about until I saw some news on it.

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            Notable Events with Stanley in the recent past:

            Stanley does the “limited release” (often seen in the fashion industry, think Supreme) marketing thing, creating a bit of hype around their cups.

            A woman in TikTok posted a video of how her car burned down, but her Stanley cup survived and there was still ice in it. This video goes viral and the CEO of Stanley does something for the lady. I can’t remember what exactly but I think he bought her a car?

            The Target × Stanley collaboration results in fistfights at retail locations over the limited edition colorway.

            Since we’re in that late-stage of capitalism, Stanley cups are a hot commodity for resellers and scalpers. Generally, resellers and scalpers try to buy their goods to resell but one lady decided to skip that whole step and just steal like $2000 USD (retail) of Stanley cups.

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        That sounds incredibly stupid. What kind of testing was done to suggest this? Surely the FDA would have a thing or two to say about it.

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          IIRC it’s a part of the vacuum-sealed thermal insulation of the cup, which is covered by stainless steel. So it’s fairly resistant to damage, they do a lifetime warranty, and if the seal is broken, the thermally insulating function of the bottle is compromised anyway. I guess that’s enough for the FDA? Obviously ideally you’d just prefer no lead at all? It was apparently charcoal until 2008.

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            Ah yeah, I’m seeing people saying it’s the solder joining some internal parts together, so that’s a total non-issue. But still… this is the one place where I wouldn’t defend leaded solder over the leadless alternatives.

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        I do and I haven’t! But I tested my paint chips… I guess they’re sweet for some other reason :'(

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        Cheaper, easier to work with, melts at lower temps, flows better, take your pick.

        That being said, why they aren’t spot welded is a mystery. I suppose solder is a better connection, but still. Why take the chance?

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          Looking at the lead from this link someone posted below - that isn’t something you can spot weld. Generally I’d say soldering can create air/liquid tight seals, spot welding can’t.

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          Rubin also noted in her report that the tumbler is specifically meant for cold water — not for hot or acidic beverages like coffee, because of the nickel content of the stainless steel used. Nickel is another metal that can be seriously harmful if ingested, but it takes a lot of time for the metal to actually contaminate food or water. Both heat (from beverages like hot coffee or tea, for instance) and acids (like those found in citrus fruits and soda) can speed that process up. Sticking to plain water removes that risk.

          Fascinating.

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          Humans are too shortsighted not to go extinct…

          You ever washed anything in your kitchen sink with other food containers? Some people do and that would immediately put lead residue all over your other surfaces that should be food safe. And also it will absorb through your skin when washing…

          Maybe the weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.

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            It’s under a plastic cover at the bottom, no water is supposed to go in there unless your cup is broken.

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                  They shouldn’t need to. They should never have included a known toxic material in a drink container

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                Well that’s when you’re supposed to get rid of the cup because… Well… It’s fucking broken!

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                  So as long as people throw away something that still seems useful, they won’t get lead poisoning. What a great way to view the world. You should run the FDA!

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            I 100% agree, lead & similar toxins have no place around our food & water. People use “broken” cups all the time, especially if that damage appears to be purely cosmetic. This will result in people being exposed to lead. It is irresponsible to incorporate lead into food, water storage containers.

            Everyone disagreeing below: weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.

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              It is irresponsible to incorporate lead into food, water storage containers.

              Precisely!! Not sure how this is remotely controversial

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      Looks like what should actually be concerning people is the nickel in the inner metal that leeches into hot and acidic drinks. The cups are “designed” for cold drinks only, but people certainly aren’t using them that way.

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        Wait, I haven’t been following this at all. Are you telling me they made insulated cups that cannot safely hold a hot beverage?

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          That’s just what the Snopes article said.

          It is stupid that they can’t hold hot drinks without leeching nickel into the liquid.

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      Yeah, we all know asbestos would make a better insulator for your coffee and whatnot.

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          Man, you just reminded me about how much I used to love stealing pieces of solder off the spool in my dad’s office. I loved how I could bend and tear metal with my bare hands like Superman. I loved forming it into a spiral and pretending it was a coin. Then I’d bite and bend it like Underdog. Sometimes I’d just chew on it cuz it was kinda sweet.

          One day, my dad got a new kind of solder that didn’t taste as good.

          Anyway, it turns out I’m a moron…

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          Until the plastic falls off and you handle it, wash it, etc.

          As for pipes whataboutism, how about we stop introducing new products with lead?

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              At this point you should read your own link. From the description of how it works, it doesn’t sound like a critical part at all. It’s part of the plastic flair on the outside. The cup is still perfectly functional and insulating.

              I guarantee you’ve used many things after a piece of nonfunctional plastic broke off.

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              Right I read that. It confirms lead is present in the bottom of the container.

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                At the bottom, on the side that’s not in contact with your drink, under a plastic cover…

                Man, people are flipping out while they probably drink water from copper pipes with lead solders at home and they never worried about it when these are actually in contact with their water!

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                  Yes you’re intentionally ignoring the fact that washing the fucking thing causes lead exposure to anyone unaware of this issue. Copper pipes from 40 years ago aren’t really relevant to the Convo. Not sure why you’re simping so hard.

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      Ontario recently legalized high school students dropping out and getting a full time job before graduating.

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        I mean the point of the article is that these are companies violating the law. Child labor is neither legal or common in the US.

        In the US you can work when you turn 15 if you get permission from your parents and a school guidance counselor.