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    Those poor raccoons. I don’t know what an autistic raccoon looks like, but these scientists should be ashamed of their… hmmm. I actually have no idea what the conspiracy behind animal vaccinations would be. Big science profiting just doesn’t fit right.

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      I used to work in veterinary medicine, and there are plenty of vaccine conspiracies in the pet owning community. They cause everything from seizures, to allergies, to autoimmune diseases, and more, according to some of these people. Breeders are a huge contributor to this, which leads to plenty of arguments with vets and pets running around unvaccinated.

      It’s expensive to get litters of puppies vaccinated, and whackadoodle (I used “doodle” for a reason) theories are a great cover for why you are sending home a puppy with zero medical history outside of hand written worming dates. Unfortunately, it’s harder to educate people when it’s way cheaper to believe bullshit.

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          “All cats are autistic” or so the joke goes.

          Don’t like being touched except on their terms, don’t like eye contact, very particular about food, will screech if overwhelmed.

          For actual info and not the joke, unsure. Not a vet, I just ask the vet weird questions! Because I’m autistic.

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          There’s no reason why not, at least in mammals.

          Though, i think i read once about how human neurons can connect to 7 instead of 4 (or som.) others compared to other hominids, with the price of higher rate of neurological issues.

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        I guess all those things are worse than your pet getting West Nile disease, rabies, distemper, or any of the various diseases pets can get.

        Some horse people have stopped giving their horses vaccines because " Wild horses don’t need them"(wild horses don’t live as long dumbfuck) and west nile is going rampant. Seeing a horse with west Nile so bad they need to be euthanized is not something I’d wish on anyone. It goes neurological in them and causes loss of coordination and seizures.

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    If my pets are any indicator of attempting this with animals they’ll gobble up the meal and leave the medication on the ground.

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    They dropped these in my mother in law’s suburban neighborhood. In her back yard. With no warning. My dog found and ate one, so it had me googling what the hell my dog had just eaten and wondering if she was going to die. Luckily we didn’t have any toddlers playing in the back yard.

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    There’s 1 major problem with this. What if a poor person without health insurance finds this? What if someone picks it up off the ground and gets cured of rabies without ruining their life in medical debt? Won’t someone think of the shareholders? How will capitalism survive if people start picking these up off the ground instead of paying $60k per pill?

    /s

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      I doubt many people actually pay that much for their meds.

      They’ll go broke instead, eternally in debt, unable to save up enough or get a credit for, say, buying a house to save on horribly inflated rent prices, always living in fear of being fired and ending up homeless until they get arrested for not having a home to sleep in, sent to for-profit prisons at the expense of other taxpayers, possibly even put to work as a legal slave…

      …but I can’t imagine the pharma company does actually get all of those 60k on average. Maybe 20k-40k - hardly enough to pay their shareholders, let alone their insurance subsidiaries’ employees for the soul-crushing job of listening to patients breaking down because the insurance won’t cover their child’s life-saving treatment for some reason rep, patient, doctor and executives all know is bullshit.

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    While i do think humans caring for nature is best done by not touching it, this is one thing humans can do for nature.

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      We’ve been doing this on the european continent. In the form of fish heads carrying the vaccine. Almost no rabies cases ever.

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        Yes, but also no. In a very literal sense, human beings are animals, and our modification of the world is technically the same kind of thing as, like, a bird building a nest. But I think there is some utility in distinguishing between human activities and non-human activities. We are uniquely capable of altering the environment in ways that no other creature can.

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        Not sure if we are on the same page.

        While managing woods, etc. has some validity, we do it for us to be more convenient. Infestations due to dead wood and forest fires do have their natural order.

        And “humans being separate from nature”: We do like to create our ideal environments, like beavers. Be it due to us having next to no fur or it being a widespread trait in mammals, who knows. But humans affecting every ecosystem with their machines and being everywhere should either not do that (like some tribes) or not being everywhere.

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    Much of Europe (ie the rich parts) is free of terrestrial rabies because of such programs. Bats really get around, though.

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      Yeah the raccoons eat the fishmeal then peel back the protective backing, retrieve the pill and don’t wash it before eating it.

      NO! Everyone knows those things are unopenable without scissors or a hammer or an RPG or something.

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    I mean unless rabies is completely eradicated you’re still going to need to seek treatment immediately if an animal bites you unless you want to risk dying the most horrible death imaginable.

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      If you mean an Immune escape that is not a real problem for rabies because that virus has a slow evolution as you can tell from the fact that the same vaccines that were used in the 80s are still used today. Compare that for example to flu or Covid-19 vaccines where even two year old vaccine types are considered outdated and not used anymore.

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        They don’t mean immune escape. It’s either an unclear joke or pseudoscientific bullshit based on a lack of knowledge around the immune system and diseases.