Jury HAS reached a verdict. 11 hours, 43 minutes.
Developing.
Analysis is saying the jury using the word “verdict” indicates this is not a hung jury.
Jury has asked for more time to fill out paperwork, which makes sense, 34 counts x 12 jurors, 408 line items?
Judge has now called for the jury.
Detail on each count here, 3 basic categories:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts
Trump was charged with falsifying business records in the first degree.
Invoices for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Checks paid for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Ledger entries for legal expenses
Guilty on 12 of 12 charges
No bail, sentencing on July 11th, 4 days before the Republican convention.
Defense has until 6/13 to file motions, prosecution has until 6/27 to respond.
Trump is responding predictably. Attacking the judge and the whole process.
Jury HAS reached a verdict. 11 hours, 43 minutes.
Developing.
Analysis is saying the jury using the word “verdict” indicates this is not a hung jury.
Jury has asked for more time to fill out paperwork, which makes sense, 34 counts x 12 jurors, 408 line items?
Judge has now called for the jury.
Detail on each count here, 3 basic categories:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts
Trump was charged with falsifying business records in the first degree.
Invoices for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Checks paid for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Ledger entries for legal expenses
Guilty on 12 of 12 charges
No bail, sentencing on July 11th, 4 days before the Republican convention.
Defense has until 6/13 to file motions, prosecution has until 6/27 to respond.
Trump is responding predictably. Attacking the judge and the whole process.
If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 05/30/2024
New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction <- You Are Here Guilty, all 34 counts.
Sentencing - July 11, 2024
Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - The trial, originally scheduled for March 4th, has been placed on hold pending the Supreme Court ruling on Presidential Immunity. They are due to hear those arguments on April 25th.
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - Postponed Indefinitely
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia
10 state felonies
Election Interference
As of 3/13/24 - Judge McAfee cleared 6 charges, 3 against Trump, saying they were too generic to be enforced.
As of 3/15/24 - The case may proceed, but either Fulton County DA, Fani Willis and her office or Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade must remove themselves due to the appearance of impropriety.
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - A trial date of Aug. 5, 2024 has been requested, not approved yet.
Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one. He was found liable in that case for $83.3 million.
There had been multiple cases in multiple states to remove Trump from the ballot, citing ineligibility under the 14th amendment.
The Supreme Court ruled on March 4th that states do not have the ability to determine eligibility in Federal elections.
Damn, I don’t think I felt like this since election night, 2020.
💯
Same vibe.
Yeah feels like breathing the same sigh of relief. Just hoping now another January 6th situation doesn’t happen as a follow up.
I mean, the timing is all wrong. J6 had a series of dependencies associated with it.
Like, they are fucked for timing right now. Couldn’t be a worse time this could have happened electorally. I guess he can campaign from prison?
I don’t think he’ll go to prison (would love to be proven wrong). I don’t think these charges have mandatory jail time. Plus I think he will appeal this until he dies.
Yeah I don’t know either. I’ll watch MeidasTouch for the analysis on that. They’ve called pretty much every aspect of this trial correctly. Its a YT channel of all attorneys, trial lawyers, former prosecutors, etc. When it comes to law, not much better. They have former members of the NY AG office as contributors. None better.
Where are all the people who insisted that this would be a hung jury / acquittal? This was an easy and quick decision. I told you NYC would do this before the weekend.
Well hopefully, they’re celebrating having been wrong.
So… Anyone else “working” right now?
It’s 5P on the east coast, I haven’t been working for the past few hours, lol (though unrelated to this).
I’m a west-coaster. But I have completely stopped working.
Hey, I have Slack open on my work phone, that counts, right?
Totally counts. Tell me about your business. There, now you are working.
I mean, everyone on Slack is talking about the verdict… sooo…
Just clocked out. What did I miss?
Guilty.
34x Guilty.
I don’t know (and in general don’t care) how to use emoji’s on this site, so I’m just gonna do it old school! Bringin’ in back to 1997 and the OGs of emojis, and just use emoticons. Break out that hotmail account, because we’re going there to express our pleasure over 34x guilty “Felon Donald J Trump”.
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…has anyone seen my geocities page? Ah. I’ll Ask Jeeves.
I found out the verdict came out because our management team shouted in celebration during their meeting. Fair to say nothing else is getting done today.
Me.
Is that a euphemism for vigorously masturbating? Because I am.
Thanks for sharing
Verdict: Trump is guilty on all 34 counts
Timeline/updates: Judge Merchan announced that he received a note saying the jury has a verdict (4:20 PM EDT)
Merchan asked for 30 minutes for jury to complete paperwork (4:30 PM)
edt: Merchan announced that the jury asked for 30 minutes. Unclear if that was from 4:20 or when he announced it closer 4:30/4:40ishManhattan DA Bragg and the judge’s clerk have entered the courtroom. Bragg, appropriately, sits behind the attorneys from his office who tried the case (4:55 PM)
Merchan has returned to the courtroom (5:00 PM) NYT clarified that the jury requested 30 minutes at 4:20. They are about to enter the courtroom. Merchan asked if both sides are ready; both sides responded affirmatively.
Jury is returning (5:05 PM)
Verdict: GUILTY on all counts
They initially read the counts 1 by 1 and then were asked if all counts were guilty counts and they replied “Yes”. Trump was slack and motionless the whole time (5:10 PM)
The officer has asked if either party wants a jury poll. The defense has said they do. (5:14 PM)
Todd Blanche, defense attorney, makes a motion for the verdict to be tossed because of Cohen’s testimony. Motion denied. the lawyers approached the bench. (5:16 PM)
Blanche asks for a mid-July sentencing hearing (5:17 PM)
Sentencing set for July 11th, 10am, four days before the RNC where Trump will be nominated as his party’s candidate (5:18 PM)
The judge dismissed the parties after asking about Trump’s bail. He announced that he will be released on his own recognizance. Trump leaves, described as red in the face, after shaking Eric’s hand.
Outside the courtroom" “This was a disgrace,” Trump says. “This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt.” (5:21 PM)
Other comments from NYT: Trump is significantly less animated than he has been as he rattles off the familiar lines that have characterized his remarks in the hallway for much of the trial. He seems more sober.
Trump spoke for less than three minutes in total. He did not answer a shouted question by a reporter who asked why Americans should vote for a convicted felon.Other notes:
Eric appears to be the only other Trump present.
Trump was calm, descibred as “slack” during the reading of the verdicts. During jury polling, he looked at the jurors, then looked back in front of him, towards the judge.Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict and https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html
Thank you
You’re welcome! It was a huge adrenaline rush bouncing between the sources and sharing updates haha
Ladies and gentlemen, former reality TV star and convicted felon Donald Trump
Disgraced, twice impeached, adjuducated rapist, convicted felon, former President Donald J. Trump.
Ooooohhhhh that’s got a nice ring to it
COUNT #1: GUILTY!
COUNT #2: GUILTY!
COUNT #3: GUILTY!
COUNT #4: GUILTY!
COUNT #5: GUILTY!
COUNT #6: GUILTY!
COUNT #7: GUILTY!
COUNT #8: GUILTY!
COUNT #9: GUILTY!
COUNT #10: GUILTY!
COUNT #11: GUILTY!
COUNT #12: GUILTY!
… COUNT #34: GUILTY!GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS
HOW ARE YOU SEEING THIS???
Watching live on MSNBC.
Oh…I didn’t realize people still had cable these days.
Oh, it’s on a streaming service, not cable. :)
GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS!
ABSOLUTE CONSENSUS FROM JURY!!!
Well shit that was fast.
Less than 12 hours, but I bet it felt longer in the room.
So fast it makes the head spin.
Might be wishful thinking or stale in 15-30 minutes but I think they at least get him on the checks. I imagine we’ll all be very disappointed if/when sentencing occurs though.
Edit: Welp, call me pleasantly surprised. Get fucked!
My prediction on sentencing is that he gets x number of 4 year terms to be served concurrently, then spends 10 years fighting it in court.
My secret wish is to see him get a form of community service that is supremely humiliating to someone like him. Show his distaste for actual work, undercut the persecution narrative by going “soft”, and kill his campaign. Honestly though, this one is going to need a good judge. It’s hard to be dispassionate when sentencing, especially in this context. Merchan seems alright, I think he’ll be fair, even if I hate it because the bastard doesn’t deserve anything but what he’s given out.
Hoping for 40 hours of community service working in a soup kitchen.
spends 10 years fighting it
How do I say I hope he doesn’t have that long left without getting myself banned?
He might run out the clock.
“Spends the rest of his life fighting it…”
I’m hoping the judge puts him in jail for a month on all those contempt citations.
Wishful thinking I know
No way his sentence is that high. He is a first time offender, and people caught on these types of charges typically get probation.
I think a few years’ probation is appropriate, then he will have to campaign (and maybe even be President) while having to report to some probation officer in NYC the whole time. He might force the issue by deliberately skipping out on his meetings and double dare the judge to throw him in jail.
Cohen was a first timer and got 3 years for the same crime.
TIL Election Interference is a small crime according to @dhork@lemmy.world.
What, are we supposed to care about campaign finance laws in the USA or something?
None of those charges were election interference, though. They were about lying about payments to cover stuff up.
Yes, but when those payments were to another party than the candidate to provide a non-monetary service to the campaign (burying news that could affect people’s actions) what’s called an in-kind contribution. If you don’t report those benefits publicly (or you try to disguise them as something else like legal fees for example), congratulations you broke election laws and interfered with the lawful election process.
Yes “Election Interference” is a specific term of art related to the conduct of the actual election and electioneering, but it can also be understood more broadly by laypersons as anything that interferes with the legal conduct of a wider election/campaign event.
Yes, everything you wrote is true, but does not change the fact that none of these 34 charges dealt with election interference directly. That will have to be done separately. I think this verdict is making that other prosecutor very happy, though, if his Jan 6 case ever goes to trial.
I happened to go to my local paper’s website and saw that the jury was coming in.
Didn’t want to watch all the talking head BS, but texted a freind to let her know.
I think there was 15 minutes of suspense between hearing they were in and getting the news.
Glad it wasn’t longer, I’d have plotzed.
Definitely got that election night feeling in my gut. Hate this, I’m not ready for November.
I feel like living through the Trump Era has definitely been a strain on my health, and not just because of Covid.
From 2016 until around the middle of 2019 I found myself saying “this is unbelievable” pretty much every day.
Guilty on all 34 counts. Get fuuuuuuuuuuucccked
Man… As the verdicts rolled in, I could genuinely feel my stress fading. This fucker has finally, finally been forced to experience a negative repercussion for his actions, and I can’t wait to see him experience more.
All 34 counts. Guilty.
Thats a lot of crime
Unpresidented
The best crime. The most crime!
Ahhh my popcorn isn’t ready!
Wasn’t expecting the verdict today. Last I saw they were getting ready to dismiss the jury.
You have 15 min…get poppin!
DONALD TRUMP - CONVICTED FELON
“Twice impeached convicted felon and known sexual abuser Donald Trump”
What’s the over-under on him fleeing to Russia or Saudi Arabia and living out his days in exile?