edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol
Also shoutout to @SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don’t mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post
Guilty on all 34 counts!
God damn it, don’t take my job away from me!
Today we’re all flying high, Squid
I was and then I got out-Rikered!
We are all sad trombone players on this blessed day.
Sorry, couldn’t help it. Still, break out the Andorian ale!
Translation: republicans rigged 2016 election to usurp power, stole 3 Supreme Court seats, passed illegitimate tax cuts for ultra rich, and committed violent insurrection when public legitimately tried to remove them from power.
Every. Single. Republican. Is. Guilty. By. Association.
So what happens now?
Fines? Community service? Jail? Nothing?
Won’t know till July when sentencing happens.
He’ll get 34 slaps on the wrist then become our president for a term that doesn’t end until he dies
34 felonies?
Good one. There will be riots in the fucking streets lmao
37?
Hey, try not to commit any crimes on your way to the parking lot!
We’ll come back here in a few years and see which one of us is right
Me since 2017:
What I was looking for - thanks
Guilty on the first count.
Edit: Counts 2~34 guilty.
We got a total sweep.
🧹🧹🧹
If he is guilty on even a single count, the former president and the presumptive republican nominee for the White House will not be able to vote for himself
What a shit show the Republican party has become.
Apparently, assuming he’s voting in Florida, for an out of state felony they use the other state’s rules to determine if he can vote. For New York, you can vote unless you are in prison for a felony (people on parole can vote). So unfortunately unless he’s thrown in jail, he’ll probably be able to vote for himself in Florida.
But hey maybe he goes to jail for something finally. That’d be nice.
#34 out of 34!
Unless there is an appeal before November
One way or the other, it will be historic. This is much faster than I expected the Jury to deliberate.
I assume if they have a verdict it’s guilty. Could be wrong.
Edit: update convicted on all 34 counts. From the article’s update:
Mr. Trump was convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business recordsby a jury of 12 New Yorkers, who deliberated over two days to reach a decision in a case rife with descriptions of secret deals, tabloid scandal and an Oval Office pact with echoes of Watergate. The jury found that Mr. Trump had faked records to conceal the purpose of money given to his onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen. The false records disguised the payments as ordinary legal expenses when in truth, Mr. Trump was reimbursing Mr. Cohen for a $130,000 hush-money deal the fixer struck with the porn star Stormy Daniels to silence her account of a sexual liaison with Mr. Trump.
Within a day (and likely within 30 minutes at that…), we will know the Jury’s verdict. Might as well wait for it.
But but it’s my justice and I need it now!
(Apparently JG Wentworth is joining the dark side,)
You’re not wrong
This quick must be guilty. I’ll allow myself to hope. Edit:
lock him the fuck up
Lock
herhim up!We even have signs that will work for this occasion with a slight modification.
Former President and convicted felon, Donald J Trump
The Former Guy The Felon Guy
Take your pick
Do you guys think this matters to his voters/supporters?
This is going to give a lot of GOP Senators a fig leaf.
If someone puts a motion in Congress to make it illegal for him to run, a lot of them will vote for it.
I absolutely do not want a ban on felons running for President. In some countries, that is used as a political tool to eliminate political opponents. Putin used that against Navalny.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42479909
Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been formally barred from competing in next year’s presidential election.
The Central Electoral Commission has said Mr Navalny was ineligible because of a corruption conviction which he says is politically motivated.
He has urged his supporters to boycott the March vote.
Mr Navalny, 41, was widely regarded as the only candidate with a chance of challenging President Vladimir Putin.
Not to mention, Trump won’t even be the first person in the USA who could be running for president from jail.
edit: the first from a major party though, sorry Debs
His felonies are related to campaing financing, which could be used to narrow down without banning all felons. While I oppose anyone losing the right to vote, I don’t oppose people who are connvicted of treason, insurrection, or felonies related to campaign finance or abuse of elected positions being banned since they have been proven to have undermined democracy.
I get allowing former felons to run for office - they served time that society said was their punishment. They are done with it.
But a law that bans a felon that has not completed their punishment is a different story.
We’ve banned them from voting for decades.
Also, the USA isn’t Russia and Biden isn’t Putin.
Not running, though. Much harder to use that to eliminate a political opponent.
Also, the USA isn’t Russia
No. But I’d also like to keep it that way.
Then keep Donald out.
This was not the first time Trump has had a run in with the law. When he was building Trump Tower he employed Polish immigrants and treated them so badly that they won a million dollar settlement against him
All the more reason for the Republicans to support it, TBH.
It’ll probably be good for his campaign somehow
Before all this started, people did make claims that they wouldn’t vote for him if he was convicted.
But then they also said they wouldn’t vote for him even if Nikki Haley conceded.
So we’ll see, I guess. But I’m not optimistic.
It will most matter for undecided voters who required a guilty verdict to decide, althoigh I’m not sure that is a large number in swing states.
It won’t matter for his base that already ignore reality.
It gives us something new to troll those miserable asshats over. “Interesting argument, but have you considered the fact that your candidate is a convicted felon?”
Yes: To them this demonstrates that the justice system is corrupt and they think only Trump can fix it.
They will believe this even though Trump isn’t running for any office in New York 🤣
Tucker Carlson responded to today’s verdict in what can only be described as an apocalyptic tone, stating on X that the jury’s decision marked “the end of the fairest justice system in the world.” The former Fox News host said that Trump would still win the election “if he’s not killed first,” and closed by saying that “anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.”
Now the judge who Trump has been royally pissing off the whole time gets to sentence him. If your justice boner lasts for more than 4 hours, please consult a doctor.
FYI: Sentencing is set for July 11 at 10 a.m.
Despite @ummthatguy@lemmy.world doing it first, this is my domain.
Don’t do a Riker on my turf, damn it.
Hey now, on this occasion there’s enough Riker to go around for all of us.
But will they get along?
You can never have too much Riker….(the 14 year old girl who was me, waiting impatiently for TNG to come on…for the sci-fi…and the Riker).
I met Jonathan Frakes at a con once and told him I had the biggest crush on him when I was a teenager. He said, “Well what changed?”
Riker gonna Riker lol
Today is a very good day.
Now on the downside, convicted felons are still legally allowed to run for office. Not being able to vote for himself is delicious schadenfreude, but this doesn’t suddenly save democracy. However, I would expect Biden’s administration will push this hard, and I don’t think undecided voters want a felon in the White House.
fast jury = guilty. w000t!
Unless youre OJ Simpson
There are several countries that won’t approve your visa if you are convicted felon.
It’s an indication that we’re not “sending our best”
So… is there a minimum sentence here? If so, what is it?
Judge set the sentencing hearing for July 11, so it’ll be a bit before we know the final details.
Right, but we should know just based on what laws he was found guilty of violating what the minimum sentences for violating them are (if there are minimums).
Probation/ community service up to 4 years per count
Edit: 4 years of jail, not community service
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IANAL, but If I’m understanding this correctly, because he was found guilty of class E felonies, there is technically a minimum of 1 year in prison, but if the court:
is of the opinion that a sentence of imprisonment is necessary but that it would be unduly harsh to impose an indeterminate or determinate sentence, the court may impose a definite sentence of imprisonment and fix a term of one year or less.
Which seems like an alternative minimum. It seems like there will be additional evaluations as part of sentencing, which may or may not be postponed by appeals. He may get up to 4 years per count (which I’m assuming would be concurrent), maybe 1, maybe less if the court finds that it would be harsh to do so.
Good question. All I know is sentencing is set for July 11 at 10 a.m.
I am here. I am happy.
