• self@awful.systemsM
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    8 months ago

    you seriously thought reposting AI marketing horseshit we’ve seen before would do anything other than cost you your account? sora gives a shit result even when openai’s marketing department is fluffing it — it made so few changes to the source material it’s plagiarizing that a bunch of folks were able to find the original video clips. but I’m wasting my fucking time — you’re already dithering like a cryptobro between “this technology is already revolutionary” and “we’re still early”

    now fuck off

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      it made so few changes to the source material it’s plagiarizing that a bunch of folks were able to find the original video clips

      Wait, for real? I missed this, do you have a source? I want to hear more about this lol

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        it took me sifting through an incredible amount of OpenAI SEO bullshit and breathless articles repeating their marketing, but this article links to and summarizes some of that discussion in its latter paragraphs

        bonus: in the process of digging up the above, I found this other article that does a much better job tearing into sora than I did — mostly because sora isn’t interesting at all to me (the result looks awful when you, like, look at it) and the claims that it has any understanding of physics or an internal world model are plainly laughable

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          ah yes, this (BITM) was indeed one of my Opened Tabs and on my (extremely) long list of places to review for regular content

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            same! which is why it’s maddening that I almost gave up on finding it — I had to reach back all the way to when sora was announced to find even this criticism, because all of the articles I could find since then have been mindless fluff. even the recent shit talking about how the OpenAI CEO froze when asked where they got the videos to train sora on are mostly just mid journalists slobbering about how nobody does gotcha questions like that anymore. not one bothered to link to any critical analyses of what sora is or what OpenAI does. and the whole time this article I couldn’t find via search was just sitting in my tabs.

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                oh fuck yes, finally!

                also wondering what it would take to make a Crank/Grifter/… X-Ray type browser plugin, which auto-highlighted and context-enriched all known names of grfiters, boosters, cranks, etc in displayed content

                I’ve considered making something like this — kind of like a generalized masstagger but with a very specific mission

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                  most of the reasons I haven’t yet tried to look into it are:

                  1. browsers
                  2. javascript

                  they continue to be rapidly exhausting items to engage with, every time. but I guess a mildly-terrible PoC could be enough to opensource and then someone else could build off that to make it non-shit

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                also wondering what it would take to make a Crank/Grifter/… X-Ray type browser plugin, which auto-highlighted and context-enriched all known names of grfiters, boosters, cranks, etc in displayed content

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          the result looks awful when you, like, look at it

          See now, there’s your problem, you’re not supposed to.

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        Yeah, people found the original bird video on YouTube within a few hours. Could’ve been the others too but I was too busy at the time to track that l

        I think it was also in the thread here at the time

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        Wait, for real?

        No, if you spend a few second searching for stock images of that bird you’ll quickly find out that they all look more or less the same. So naturally, SORA produces something that looks very similar as well.

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          oh wow a fresh account with the exact same writing style and shit takes as the other poster, wonder who that could be

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            It’a a magnificent giveaway though. “All the stock images of that bird look the same to me”. Yeah, I agree that you’re not personally capable of critically assessing the material here.

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              “it’s not plagiarism, the output is just indistinguishable from plagiarism” oh how foolish of me to not consider the same excuse undergrads use to try and launder the paper they plagiarized