• 200fifty@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      I think this person is kind of playing semantic games and being a bit fast and loose with the definition of ‘intersex.’ The logic would be something like, if it turns out that a particular AMAB person has a female gender identity due to an issue with some physical process of sexual development (maybe their brain didn’t masculinize properly due to something like prenatal hormone exposure, or because they have a minor androgen insensitivity, or something?) then you could argue that their being trans is, in a sense, an intersex condition, just one that is mild enough not to affect their physical body.*

      I think the implication being made here is “straight trans women are trans because of this kind of developmental brain thing, but non-straight trans women are trans because they’re men with a fetish. But Big Trans wants you to believe that all trans people are trans the first way (the “intersex” way), because that’s what ‘trans women are women’ means, and I’m the brave person who dares speak truth to power by saying they aren’t intersex.” So, it has… very little to do with the actual definition of “intersex” as we here in the real world use it.

      I believe this idea became part of the insane Blanchard ad-hoc theory lore via J. Michael Bailey, who wrote that book where he was like “straight trans women are all naturally fem and hot, but non straight trans women are all ugly masculine weirdos who don’t pass.” I think people in the, uh, Blanchard fandom, kind of took that idea and ran with it to an insane degree and built a whole pile of assumptions on top of it which definitely do not hold up to scrutiny, even if you set aside the fact they’re based on some random dude’s anecdote about which trans women he found most fuckable.

      *I don’t think I would personally defend this claim, but it is something I’ve heard argued, and I’m not sure it’s necessarily factually wrong so much as it is kind of a pointless semantic argument. But I’m pretty sure this is what the original poster means.

          • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            11 months ago

            it’s clear we’d be beating our heads with hammers anyway, the internet points are a small consolation prize

          • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            Yeah it’s sad gosh. Looks like a lot of relatable fears taken to the extreme instead of dealt with properly.

            Aside: Zach keeps saying trans people impose on others so I want to shout this into the void at no one in particular: dear cis people all you have to do is mind your own business!


            But also holy smokes that “anon” comment is wild.

            HSTS with enough IQ points

            Enough IQ points? HTTP Strict Transport Security? … enough IQ points?!

            Our values are different. I dislike females, where I see female I see potential for competition, mutual poisoning and anxiety-driven treason, and I see zero value, sexual or otherwise.

            Jesus Christ.

            • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              11 months ago

              Yeah ironically that comment is even more poisoned by 4chan blanchardian culture than Zack is poisoned by rationalism.

          • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            11 months ago

            my god, it’s Zack explaining precisely how fucked up one would have to be to write that blog, in under four hundred words. Amazing.

      • mountainriver@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        11 months ago

        I hesitate to ask, but information hazards be damned.

        In that worldview, what are cis gay persons? Also intersex or something else?