I think this person is kind of playing semantic games and being a bit fast and loose with the definition of ‘intersex.’ The logic would be something like, if it turns out that a particular AMAB person has a female gender identity due to an issue with some physical process of sexual development (maybe their brain didn’t masculinize properly due to something like prenatal hormone exposure, or because they have a minor androgen insensitivity, or something?) then you could argue that their being trans is, in a sense, an intersex condition, just one that is mild enough not to affect their physical body.*
I think the implication being made here is “straight trans women are trans because of this kind of developmental brain thing, but non-straight trans women are trans because they’re men with a fetish. But Big Trans wants you to believe that all trans people are trans the first way (the “intersex” way), because that’s what ‘trans women are women’ means, and I’m the brave person who dares speak truth to power by saying they aren’t intersex.” So, it has… very little to do with the actual definition of “intersex” as we here in the real world use it.
I believe this idea became part of the insane Blanchard ad-hoc theory lore via J. Michael Bailey, who wrote that book where he was like “straight trans women are all naturally fem and hot, but non straight trans women are all ugly masculine weirdos who don’t pass.” I think people in the, uh, Blanchard fandom, kind of took that idea and ran with it to an insane degree and built a whole pile of assumptions on top of it which definitely do not hold up to scrutiny, even if you set aside the fact they’re based on some random dude’s anecdote about which trans women he found most fuckable.
*I don’t think I would personally defend this claim, but it is something I’ve heard argued, and I’m not sure it’s necessarily factually wrong so much as it is kind of a pointless semantic argument. But I’m pretty sure this is what the original poster means.
Yeah it’s sad gosh. Looks like a lot of relatable fears taken to the extreme instead of dealt with properly.
Aside: Zach keeps saying trans people impose on others so I want to shout this into the void at no one in particular: dear cis people all you have to do is mind your own business!
But also holy smokes that “anon” comment is wild.
HSTS with enough IQ points
Enough IQ points? HTTP Strict Transport Security? … enough IQ points?!
Our values are different. I dislike females, where I see female I see potential for competition, mutual poisoning and anxiety-driven treason, and I see zero value, sexual or otherwise.
Actually, I’m not sure how they deal with cis gays. I think it would depend on who you ask? I think this specific variant of the theory would consider cis gays a type of intersex as well, but not ‘as much as’ trans people. Not 100% sure though.
I think this person is kind of playing semantic games and being a bit fast and loose with the definition of ‘intersex.’ The logic would be something like, if it turns out that a particular AMAB person has a female gender identity due to an issue with some physical process of sexual development (maybe their brain didn’t masculinize properly due to something like prenatal hormone exposure, or because they have a minor androgen insensitivity, or something?) then you could argue that their being trans is, in a sense, an intersex condition, just one that is mild enough not to affect their physical body.*
I think the implication being made here is “straight trans women are trans because of this kind of developmental brain thing, but non-straight trans women are trans because they’re men with a fetish. But Big Trans wants you to believe that all trans people are trans the first way (the “intersex” way), because that’s what ‘trans women are women’ means, and I’m the brave person who dares speak truth to power by saying they aren’t intersex.” So, it has… very little to do with the actual definition of “intersex” as we here in the real world use it.
I believe this idea became part of the insane Blanchard ad-hoc theory lore via J. Michael Bailey, who wrote that book where he was like “straight trans women are all naturally fem and hot, but non straight trans women are all ugly masculine weirdos who don’t pass.” I think people in the, uh, Blanchard fandom, kind of took that idea and ran with it to an insane degree and built a whole pile of assumptions on top of it which definitely do not hold up to scrutiny, even if you set aside the fact they’re based on some random dude’s anecdote about which trans women he found most fuckable.
*I don’t think I would personally defend this claim, but it is something I’ve heard argued, and I’m not sure it’s necessarily factually wrong so much as it is kind of a pointless semantic argument. But I’m pretty sure this is what the original poster means.
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I knew all my abyss-gazing would pay off eventually…
it’s clear we’d be beating our heads with hammers anyway, the internet points are a small consolation prize
There’s also this handy introduction (cw: sad)
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Yeah it’s sad gosh. Looks like a lot of relatable fears taken to the extreme instead of dealt with properly.
Aside: Zach keeps saying trans people impose on others so I want to shout this into the void at no one in particular: dear cis people all you have to do is mind your own business!
But also holy smokes that “anon” comment is wild.
Enough IQ points? HTTP Strict Transport Security? … enough IQ points?!
Jesus Christ.
Yeah ironically that comment is even more poisoned by 4chan blanchardian culture than Zack is poisoned by rationalism.
my god, it’s Zack explaining precisely how fucked up one would have to be to write that blog, in under four hundred words. Amazing.
I hesitate to ask, but information hazards be damned.
In that worldview, what are cis gay persons? Also intersex or something else?
Actually, I’m not sure how they deal with cis gays. I think it would depend on who you ask? I think this specific variant of the theory would consider cis gays a type of intersex as well, but not ‘as much as’ trans people. Not 100% sure though.
I feel it’s appropriate at this point to mention that Blanchard’s theory mostly hinges on putting little rings around queer people’s penises, a method invented by his mentor Kurt Freund.