• Jeredin@lemm.ee
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      Your concerns are valid but all the Rs coming out like this is more about how terrible Trump is and less about anything else. Don’t underestimate how many moderates there are in both parties and these Rs help there - progressives need their votes. After Trump is gone, we can hopefully go back to trying to improve the voting system, pushing Dems more left and hope that anyone on the right exchanges some of their selfinterests for social interests - but that’s best we can dream for.

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        Adding Republicans won’t push the Democrats to the left. It’s just going to keep ahoving the overton window further and further to the right.

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      Your feelings don’t matter.

      Trump has a 43% favorable rating, and there’s a good chance he could win in November.

      Even after the Nazis had taken Paris, there were French monarchists who felt they were too good to unite with the Communists in the Resistance.

      When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House, then we can start to pick and choose.

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        When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House

        Create an unbreakable veto-proof majority of Romney Staffers and you’re going to end up with an unbreakable veto-proof policy written by Romney Staffers.

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          I haven’t seen Harris take a step backwards yet. The Romney folks are accepting her as she is.

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            I haven’t seen Harris take a step backwards yet.

            She’s hostile to immigration. She’s friendly with corporate finance and the California tech sector. She threw away her platforms on universal health care, higher minimum wage, and educational debt forgiveness to get the VP slot. She’s a zealous supporter of the MIC and has yet to find a war she doesn’t like. Her brother-in-law is a chief executive at Uber, ffs.

            Why would she need to take a step backwards to meet Mitt Romney? They’re joined at the hip.

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              BoTH SideS aRe THe SamE!

              Don’t vote at all until we get the perfect candidate!! Surely sitting on the sidelines will push the Dems to the Left!!

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                BoTH SideS aRe THe SamE!

                The Romney wing of the Republican Party has huge overlap with the Biden wing of the Democratic Party.

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                  Something like 2% of the population thinks that Gaza is a big problem for America.

                  43% of the population thinks Donald Trump would be a good President.

                  Stop acting like you’re living in a country on the verge of a Socialist revolution.

                  Obama barely got the ACA passed when he had a veto proof majority.

                  I hate to be the one who has to explain this to you.

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                    Something like 2% of the population thinks that Gaza is a big problem for America.

                    Not actually true. You’ll see a 3-5% swing in the polls based on how closely Republicans and Democrats are aligned on supporting the Israeli genocide.

                    Stop acting like you’re living in a country on the verge of a Socialist revolution.

                    When you listen to Trump talk, a big part of his platform is appealing to the (whites only) democratic socialism common to the 50s and 60s. When Kamala panders to her base, she talks about cutting the private cost of health care and education. I’m not sure where you got the idea of a pending Socialist Revolution. But socialist policy is consistently appealing across large majorities of the American voting base.

                    Younger people want to enroll in Medicare sooner. Older people love Social Security. Parents clamor for public education. Students flock to public universities and scramble over one another for public educational grants. The whole east coast loves Amtrak, particularly when compared to prospect of being crammed aboard some Boeing To Die sardine can. People generally like having a post office and a garbage collection service.

                    Obama barely got the ACA passed when he had a veto proof majority.

                    Because the insurance lobbyists in the US Senate worked overtime to kill it. Not because people hated the idea of increased Medicaid enrollment.

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      If you listened to Harris’s acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She’s accepting their endorsements today. And she’s going to start taking their advice tomorrow.

      Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I’m not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” is whispering in the next President’s ear.

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      i mean look bro i’ll welcome whoever admits the faults of the republican party, we’ve got a low bar set here. We gotta take what we can get you feel me?

      actually, on second thought, don’t touch me.

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          they don’t exactly have much of an option here. They either support the trump campaign and do a little bit of silly, or they support the dems which won’t do much if any silly.

          Regardless, any republican willing to fence sit this hard on this election cycle is likely going to be a decent person anyway. They probably won’t have a ton of support for the dems, but it’s a good sign that we have support from republicans so i’ll take what i can get.

          I also think it’s extremely unlikely that any of them actually get any significant say outside of the standard voting procedure. They’re unlikely to line up perfectly, but again, any support is support.

          Although i would kill for a pirate impression in the government, not gonna lie.

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      Too bad. We’re watching the death throes of the GOP, and the Dems will stay right to continue courting the hemorrhaging right-wing voters. It’s just another little reminder that after electing Harris, leftists will need to continue to organize to form our own pro-labor party.