• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      she’s doing exactly what she was appointed to do.

      I still find it mind-boggling that she’s even participating in the case, much less judging (adjudicating?) it.

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      if the court rules are that both sides are supposed to talk to determine what is reasonable to discuss and not discuss, and the prosecutor just totally ignored that because “who cares” and Trump is clearly out of line, then the prosecutor still ignored the court rules. good for that judge for asserting that prosecutors can’t just do whatever they want. i thought her words were actually funny and clever. she’s pointing out that the rules specify it’s really supposed to be a meaningful attempt, not just faking it or ignoring it or trivially trying to say they tried. A gag order is a big limit to free speech, I wish they were never even allowed, but she’s at least being sensible with this and rejecting it on a limited basis based on procedural reasons

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        That may fly if Trump already didn’t have a history of skirting or outright defying gag orders already. This lady needs to be removed immediately on nat sec grounds. This is fucking absurd.

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          Even if you don’t like Trump, procedural fairness is important. You aren’t supposed to just ignore procedure when it comes to a defendant being criminally prosecuted. There has been a trend of more and more procedural fairness being ignored because prosecutors know they can get away with it and it will be meaningless on appeal. The judge had to rule this way and if she hadn’t she would have been a horrible judge. What is sad is that it actually had to be appealed to get to the level of normal procedural fairness. Even very awful people are supposed to get fair procedure in the US. The time procedure and fairness matter most is when someone is being deprived of liberty, that’s when you want the rules to be fair, not broken. What would have been a better ruling? If she said “Eh, it’s fine, the prosecutors can do whatever and it won’t matter on appeal anyway because of the harmless error rule.” Gag orders should also be illegal. The First Amendment was not supposed to be some weak idea that occasionally let’s people speak their views. It’s supposed to protect people like Trump who many people think have detestable speech.

          Also, I hate Trump’s views on Trans people and his treatment towards those who are different or he perceives as different. I have never voted for Trump. Give this judge a break, that was a good ruling.

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    Anyone else tired of that smug headshot every news article uses of her? If this woman a recluse? How are there no other photos of her?

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    So, uh…we going to plan protests yet, or…

    When does all this become too much for the left? Cause I gotta say: We are being VERY lenient so far. We basically look at the Republicans and go “Okay, act like babies. We’ll just rise above it.” and gotta say: It isn’t working.

    I’m pretty hard against Trump and the Republican Party. I support Progressive policies and laws regardless of where they come from. What really irks me is how damned unresponsive people on the Left are. I feel like all we do is talk about what-if’s and what-could-be’s. Hell, part of me was surprised Gaza caused any protest at all with how damned passive everyone over here so often is in comparison to the raving lunatics over on the Right. It’s appalling and frustrating.

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      The moment leftists actually protest, right wingers and centrists (Biden) will happily send in the military to give em the Black Panthers treatment

      Meanwhile right wingers are allowed to do whatever they want, up to and including Jan 6th

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      Meanwhile Georgia is in the process of passing a law to label outside organizations as foreign agents and they had immediate protests. We’re having our justice and political system blatantly turned toward service of a minority political faction lead by a fascist criminal and we think it would be inappropriate to demand they act differently.

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    what a goddamn joke, she has literally NO qualifications to be a judge let alone a judge for one of the most important cases in the history of the fuckin country.

    Absolutely pathetic, everybody in the goddamn law profession should be ashamed. Nothing but clowns

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    From the article:

    “In a brief order, Cannon slammed prosecutors for not following the court’s rules by failing to meaningfully confer with Trump’s defense lawyers about a potential gag order before making the request.”

    Maybe it’s just me but this sounds an awful lot like she’s denying the motion because the prosecutors…didn’t ask the Trump team for permission to file the motion? Am I reading that right? The prosecution needs permission from the defense to file a motion for a gag order?

    Lawyers, please tell me that Cannon is once again just being extraordinarily stupid. This can’t be normal, right? To me, this is like a domestic abuse victim having to ask the abuser for the right get a restraining order.

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      As I understand it, they don’t need to ask permission, but they need to make an actual attempt at a diplomatic resolution before making the formal request. If that doesn’t go to their liking, then they would speak to the judge.

      It should have been a formality, because in all likelihood, the defense would have politely told the prosecutors to get fucked, but they really shouldn’t have skipped that step.

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        Your honor, I have a hundred examples of Trump violating gag orders from/checks notes/ the past 2 weeks. Asking them would be an insult in the first place.

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        Maybe it’s a good way to test the waters to add to their concrete examples of bias.

        It’s not like they expect the gag order to be followed or enforced anyway. Judge Merchan has enough issues with that, and we already know Cannon will have less than no interest.

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      This is what “justice” is for the rich. The rest of us would be serving time in double digits by now. They just get the judges in their pockets to pull strings.

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        just

        This is what leads me to worry you’re oversimplifying something. Is it cool if we avoid the generalizations here? We can all confidently say Mr Trump isn’t a very upstanding cretin, but don’t let him take your rep down.

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    So we can add another name to the rich and/or powerful who get to abuse our justice system for their own personal ends with nary a consequence in sight.

    I gotta tell you, this is becoming the thing I’m most ashamed of about the current state of our country, and that’s saying something, because I’ve got a pretty long list.

  • JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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    When is the prosecution allowed to appeal(?) for a different judge due to obvious bias for the defense?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Federal Judge Aileen Cannon on Tuesday rejected special counsel Jack Smith’s request for a gag order against Donald Trump in the classified documents case, saying that prosecutors’ request was “wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy.”

    This story is breaking and will be updated.


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