• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    You’re naive if you think no one disagrees. There’s people on here consistently cheerleading for Hamas and at every protest you see people cosplaying as Hamas. There is a lot of support for genocide, so long as it’s Jews that are the ones being murdered.

    And yeah, Hamas is using civilians as human shields. If you actually cared about Palestinian civilians you wouldn’t be calling people assholes for denouncing the actions of the real genocidal terrorists that are only getting Palestinian civilians killed with their cowardly tactics. But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

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      4 months ago

      Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas? Are they generally up-voted, or down-voted? There are trolls on every platform.

      But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

      Making these kinds of strawman, ad-hominem attacks against me makes me very hesitant to engage in any kind of serious conversation with you, but maybe that’s your intent? I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

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        4 months ago

        Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas?

        That would be a waste of my time. You don’t strike me as someone that would be convinced by facts.

        I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

        You call people assholes when they state facts about the fucked up shit Hamas does.

        This is cult behaviour… always attack never even try to defend the horrible things your side does because it’s indefensible.

        But maybe I’m wrong. Are you capable of unconditionally denouncing Hamas?

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          Your entire post is a series of strawman arguments. You clearly aren’t interested in conversing in good faith, so I’m out.

          “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get filthy and the pig likes it.”

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              I know I already said I’m out, but that’s the most truthful thing you’ve said in this entire conversation. Thanks for finally being somewhat honest.

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                4 months ago

                The truth is you can’t bring yourself to denounce Hamas. Monsters that actually commit genocide and you can’t denounce them. And you call other people assholes.

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                    Yup, pushing “both sides” narrative to in an effort normalize the genocide committed by Hamas on October 7. Everything you’re saying, I’ve seen before.

                    You know that Hamas committed genocide, but by refusing to accept reality you prove your dedication to “the cause.” This a pattern of behavior that’s common in cults, the MAGA movement and many many fascist movements. Nothing you’re saying is unique, nothing you’re doing is original. It’s not even unique to behave in this way in support of group that wants the genocide of Jews.

                    You talk of history but you haven’t learned from the patterns of behaviour. How have things historically worked out for people that disconnect from reality in their support of a genocidal movement?

                    Israel was founded by terrorists

                    This is not true. You have a slanted view of history, and it seems once again you’re doing the “both sides” thing (are you capable of any other way of thinking?) so that Hamas terrorism is fine. It’s not. If it upsets you that Israel honors people that attacked the British for limiting Jewish immigration from Europe during the time period that the Nazis were in control of Europe (maybe you haven’t thought about what was happening in Europe at that time just as you refuse to think about what happened on October 7) then why would you think it’s acceptable for Palestinians to be terrorists? Nonsense “both sides” logic again.

                    But whatever, you’re just another boring person “both sides” stuck both sides logic (which is actually logical) that got sucked into a fascist movement. This conversation has the exact same pattern as my conversations with MAGAs. An exhausting explanation of reality to someone that wants to loudly deny reality to prove their loyalty to their movement.

                    Your next impulse will be to say that I’ve wasted my time by having a conversation with you, because then you’d feel you won something wasting the time of someone that your movement considers an enemy… I guess? Never understood that impulse, seems to me like a self-own to say that someone else wasted their time by having a conversation with you. But that’s the pattern of a conversation with a fascist. Because the goal of someone in a fascist movement isn’t to learn anything, the goal is to put on a performance to prove loyalty to the movement.

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                  Any nation that intentionally withholds food, medicine and potable water from a people that it finds inconvenient is a government intentionally committing genocide.

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          So you have the time to say shit, but backing it up is a waste of your time? This is a definitely a sure fire way to be taken seriously!

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          This is cult behaviour… always attack never even try to defend the horrible things your side does because it’s indefensible.

          It is quite ironic of you to say this in a comment chain in which you came in, immediately attacking and attributing malicious intent to the other commenter, all the while insinuating that Israel does nothing wrong and only Hamas is to blame for the horrors happening. Of the two of it seemed to me like you were the one engaging more in this behavior.