If we had ranked choice voting across the board I might actually vote for her or another. But seeing as we only have two practical options, that’s not realistic to vote for her if we expect it to fend off the worse of two voting options.
In other words, voting for her doesn’t help avoid Trump. It in fact draws votes away from the Biden option since she’s a green option which wouldn’t realistically draw any votes from the right.
Supporting, donating, and spreading the message to friends and family about the Green party. It is the largest decent party in the US so a good base to build from. What everyone else on this site does is complain about voting for Joe Biden instead of doing anything.
Do you realistically see any possibility of the green party gaining enough traction by November to actually be a competitive option and defeat both alternative parties? Do you think it can go from 0.26% of the popular vote and 0% of the electoral college vote to obtaining a majority of 51%?
I applaud the commitment to a an ideal. But the ideal won’t stop a fascist regime in the form of Trump from setting in. We who complain about voting for Biden can see that Biden isn’t a good option. But he is the best chance of not getting Trump. So he begrudgingly gets a vote. I would love to live in a country that can have viable 3rd party options. But currently we aren’t there. And there is too much that will have to change to make it possible to realistically be a voting option. Every journey starts with a single step and all but until we get things passed like ranked choice voting, the green party will never see a national victory.
This election is unique with weak duopoly candidates and RFK polling up to 10% in some polls. So there is a chance for the Green party, a very slim one to win but realistically could achieve 5% to gain increased federal funding for future elections.
In my view Biden’s administration is just as fascist as Trump in their work to prevent a third party option. So that’s why I try to build a new party, but can understand if you see his administration differently.
I can’t see them as equivalent outside of that singular position though. Both suck at not creating room for a 3rd party 100%. But Trump is following a plan and colluding with others in the GOP and DOJ to topple all democracy and install a dictatorship. If that comes to fruition there won’t even be two parties. It will be one party. Well, one party and a group of people oppressed by the party.
Have you looked at Project 2025? It is absolutely a blueprint for total fascism. Destroy the FBI, DOJ, DHS, FCC, and FTC. Then replace tens of thousands of federal employees with party loyalists, and practice executive unilateral theory…essentially the idea that the president is all powerful and can act unilaterally.
If that’s not scary enough (because that is essentially the first few years of Nazi Germany in a nutshell)…let’s also cut the department of education so we can keep everyone stupid. Further bans on abortion and restrictions on contraception. Criminalize porn. Get rid of any federal DEI programs and eliminate discrimination and harassment protections for LGBT.
Then shrink the EPA and destroy NOAA. Roll back any climate change legislation and go full-steam on fossil fuels.
Reduce the number of generals (no doubt to keep loyalists and cronies).
It is literally impossible to read any one page of Project 2025 and see it as anything other than a blueprint for fascism and the destruction of America, essentially handing it over to corporations and party loyalists. And it is 920 pages long. And the book is only one part of Project 2025.
Oh, and most of this was just paraphrased from 3 paragraphs of the Wikipedia article. This is the tip of the iceberg.
This is cartoon level villainy. They are actually spelling out their plans directly in plain view for everyone, and his own supporters are completely ignoring it, because they are spoon-fed their “news” that conveniently doesn’t include this.
i want this, too. democrats railed against dhs as fascist when bush implemented it. fbi and doj enforce unjust laws. fuck all that. get rid of them all.
I fucking hate that the only other option is a fascist tyrant with designs on overthrowing our government.
Jill Stein
If we had ranked choice voting across the board I might actually vote for her or another. But seeing as we only have two practical options, that’s not realistic to vote for her if we expect it to fend off the worse of two voting options. In other words, voting for her doesn’t help avoid Trump. It in fact draws votes away from the Biden option since she’s a green option which wouldn’t realistically draw any votes from the right.
Stop bending over for the duopoly. Do something about it like I am.
And what pray tell is that?
Supporting, donating, and spreading the message to friends and family about the Green party. It is the largest decent party in the US so a good base to build from. What everyone else on this site does is complain about voting for Joe Biden instead of doing anything.
Do you realistically see any possibility of the green party gaining enough traction by November to actually be a competitive option and defeat both alternative parties? Do you think it can go from 0.26% of the popular vote and 0% of the electoral college vote to obtaining a majority of 51%?
I applaud the commitment to a an ideal. But the ideal won’t stop a fascist regime in the form of Trump from setting in. We who complain about voting for Biden can see that Biden isn’t a good option. But he is the best chance of not getting Trump. So he begrudgingly gets a vote. I would love to live in a country that can have viable 3rd party options. But currently we aren’t there. And there is too much that will have to change to make it possible to realistically be a voting option. Every journey starts with a single step and all but until we get things passed like ranked choice voting, the green party will never see a national victory.
This election is unique with weak duopoly candidates and RFK polling up to 10% in some polls. So there is a chance for the Green party, a very slim one to win but realistically could achieve 5% to gain increased federal funding for future elections.
In my view Biden’s administration is just as fascist as Trump in their work to prevent a third party option. So that’s why I try to build a new party, but can understand if you see his administration differently.
I can’t see them as equivalent outside of that singular position though. Both suck at not creating room for a 3rd party 100%. But Trump is following a plan and colluding with others in the GOP and DOJ to topple all democracy and install a dictatorship. If that comes to fruition there won’t even be two parties. It will be one party. Well, one party and a group of people oppressed by the party.
Literally has a guidebook written and published as part of his campaign. And people still vote for him.
I wonder if either party has a level of depravity they’ll put up with before choosing to not vote for their candidate
My feeling is maybe not
Have you looked at Project 2025? It is absolutely a blueprint for total fascism. Destroy the FBI, DOJ, DHS, FCC, and FTC. Then replace tens of thousands of federal employees with party loyalists, and practice executive unilateral theory…essentially the idea that the president is all powerful and can act unilaterally.
If that’s not scary enough (because that is essentially the first few years of Nazi Germany in a nutshell)…let’s also cut the department of education so we can keep everyone stupid. Further bans on abortion and restrictions on contraception. Criminalize porn. Get rid of any federal DEI programs and eliminate discrimination and harassment protections for LGBT.
Then shrink the EPA and destroy NOAA. Roll back any climate change legislation and go full-steam on fossil fuels.
Reduce the number of generals (no doubt to keep loyalists and cronies).
It is literally impossible to read any one page of Project 2025 and see it as anything other than a blueprint for fascism and the destruction of America, essentially handing it over to corporations and party loyalists. And it is 920 pages long. And the book is only one part of Project 2025.
Oh, and most of this was just paraphrased from 3 paragraphs of the Wikipedia article. This is the tip of the iceberg.
This is cartoon level villainy. They are actually spelling out their plans directly in plain view for everyone, and his own supporters are completely ignoring it, because they are spoon-fed their “news” that conveniently doesn’t include this.
Maybe Biden should be less DOGSHIT, then I wouldn’t have to worry about him losing to that other, bigger piece of shit
i want this, too. democrats railed against dhs as fascist when bush implemented it. fbi and doj enforce unjust laws. fuck all that. get rid of them all.