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Went to a metal concert last year for a huge, well known band. The number of punisher/warrior, thin blue line, militia-styled ragged flag, Gadsden shirts and hats was off the charts.
In my younger days metal was anti-authoritarianism, anti-cop, anti-conformity… now these clowns are the ones who want to be holding the riot batons, the body armor, and support the very fascists we hated.
I got plenty of grey hair, the crowd around me didn’t so I’m thinking there’s a generational shift to metal going fascist.
Yeah, the meme rings pretty true.
Lot of metal recently using racist ideology, etc. Sucks that anything with a Celtic or Viking design has a racist vibe behind it now
Right? Of all people our veterinarian wears a Mjölnir necklace…I had to do a triple take to make sure he wasn’t a supremacist asshole, but no, he’s a legit Norwegian who likes Nordic style in general. He wears a Dragestil belt with silver inlay, some tattoos too. Cool guy. Sad that my first thought was wondering if he was a nazi supremacist because the symbols have been usurped and corrupted.
As an Icelander who still practices the old customs this drives me nuts. These scum lack the basic imagination to come up with their own logos so they steal our symbols? Fuck that.
I just wish one of the Kardashians or some influencer would go big on Nordic symbology and bring it to the mainstream. Maybe it would lose its appeal to these fucks.
That’s the thing, isn’t it? All these extremists steal other people’s stuff and corrupt it to their own purposes. Nazis did it. Religions did it. Supremacists are doing it with Nordic cultural symbols.
Fucking posers, man…
Isn’t Nazis a political party like Republicans?
Edit: goddamnit, do I really gotta “woosh!” All of you? Someone tell me you get it.
There is nationalism: “our people are cooler, let’s favour them, maybe we’ll make it harder for others but we don’t care”, so there are legit parties with that views: conservators, protectionists, socialists (I don’t refer to specific parties or movements, just a general inclination). I don’t like them that much, but we shouldn’t judge opinions, it’s better to promote our own.
And there’s nazism, which usually refers to an ideology like Hitler’s: “yes, we are better, so let’s kill everyone else or make them slaves”, this is just pure evil, I leave it unexplained because it’s really obvious.Socialists definitely don’t value one group over another, they value literally the entirety of humanity. Supporting the Proletariat over the Bourgeoisie is more about property relations and class abolition than literally valuing Proletarians over Bourgeois.
Oh what’s this? Allegations by… 35 women?
God dammit.
Yeah. I find that a lot in very disparate genres, too. I pretty much have to look up anyone I like more than a little now.
RABM is nice to find non-shitheads.
What’s RABM ?
Red/Anarchist Black Metal. In response to NSBM, National Socialist Black Metal, RABM was formed, it’s an umbrella term for outwardly leftist Black Metal as opposed to outwardly Nazi Black Metal. Marxists and Anarchists describe themselves as RABM if they want to signal their views faster.
Panopticon is a good example.
Sounds like it would attract tankies
I really don’t know what you mean, it’s an explicitly anti-sectarian umbrella of Marxists and Anarchists. Among them are Marxist-Leninists, Anarchists, Orthodox Marxists, even Libertarian Socialists and Market Socialists.
It’s going to attract people under the umbrella of Socialism.
