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The right needs to create elaborate theories of victimhood in order to even construct a punch-up joke. Is this why they prefer bullying humour, or is it why they have a persecution fetish?
Hey everyone guess what, I found something less funny than comedy theory: trying to understand unfunny people! 😀
Don’t forget they have to contradict themselves at every turn. “Go woke go broke” vs “cancel culture”, “the 2nd protects the 1st” vs cheering on cops beating up protesters, party of traditional family values vs supporting a dude who’s divorced several times and is in court for misappropriation of campaign funds to pay off a sex worker.
is it why they have a persecution fetish?
They want to persecute others, so they assume others want to persecute them. It’s always projection.
This is pretty cringe. Also not a meme.
But it’s on a generic bad thing/good thing template??? That’s comedy!
Also a picture of somebody being a nuisance with a pickup with a caption about how tough they are for doing it isn’t exactly what I’d qualify as a good meme.
Love the irony of calling out kneejerk assumptions… This post is effectively “Left wing people are smart. Right wing people are dumb. Upvote if you agree”
No, the post is pointing out that reinforcing existing beliefs doesn’t require an explanation while giving reasons to change does. Explanations are always longer.
So, leftist memes are long and nuanced? Leftists must not hang around Lemmy and Reddit then, because by the time I see anything long and nuanced around here it’s not a meme any more.
Moreover, a short, meme-length satire absolutely can challenge and give reason to change, as it draws attention to the incongruity in the reader’s expectations. If course it can also be dumb, wrong, maligned or ignored.
No, I do think this post is essentially “my memes clever, your memes dumb”; and, “stop having fun at your own satire. You’re all stupid and you need to know you’re all stupid”; and back again, “see guys, I called them stupid. Now we can all feel relief and walk away.”
Boring endnote, please stop reading…
I take to the comments again to complain that there’s too much oversaturation of defending good things with dumb takes. I’m not, above, trying to defend right-wing memes; what frustrates me so often on Lemmy and Reddit is seeing good values - caring for the poor, having justice in society, treating women with respect, making policies with science not assumptions… - seeing good and important things defended often with lies, ad hominem attacks and other bad takes. If your true goal is for the ‘poor’ to win, then lies and tantrums make superficial logical sense, but (a) watch your necks when today’s poor become tomorrow’s rich and (b) do you actually care for the poor or is it “my segment of society” win? But if your true goal is for society to be good and kind and just and honest, then while you fight for justice, be just; and be honest, while you fight for honesty; and be kind to those you don’t like, while you fight for people in power to be kind even to those they don’t like; and choose your sources with integrity when you fight for science; and consider your own views when you fight for people to seek truth outside their echo chambers. But do you care about the people you’re memeing to? Or do you really want to make yourself look good.
Out of curiosity, can you post 1 (one) SINGLE right-wing meme that’s funny?
I mean, I have one. It’s Canadian, and I was not stoked at all about the actual event, but I did laugh (and felt guilty after) at this.
yeah that one is kind of funny, but at the end of the day it fits right in the arguments that right wingers can’t make memes-- the joke is cruelty.
This Daniel guy makes memes and also huffs his own farts.
I’m openly left wing but I’m not gonna pretend that the majority of lefty memes are shit like this dude
Both sides can have ultra cringe meme’s. Both sides can have great meme’s. Both sides make up meme’s the other side never made to make the other side look worse.
Right-wing humor is just fear-mongering and prejudice. Left-wing humor is actually funny
but, woman thinking, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SO FUCKING FUNNY
That joke is so old they literally made fun of it in a movie about how repressive the 50’s were.
I’m left wing but this is the most auto-felating post I’ve ever seen.
Also, it is the wrong usage of the meme, which is hilariously ironical.
The meme should be “basic version -> fancy version”… Instead, we got opposing points.
I guess the left really can’t meme.
The meme should be “basic version -> fancy version”… Instead, we got opposing points.
Are we gatekeeping memes now?
If we don’t, who will?
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Honestly people who make memes about either political side are stupid. Personally the left and right label is out-datedIMO and just hurting further evolution of society. Almost like they want us fighting over stupid memes instead of actually facing the real problem.
Oh, look… a centrist.
Yawn.
Lol thats an even worse label IMO. I have extreme ideas lol but I’m not with this whole left vs right ideaology it doesnt help fuck all
I’m not with this whole left vs right ideaology
said like everyone who has strong views but no real understanding
Lol I understand it perfectly its just dumb and needs to change. I will participate in the system but I strongly disagree with everything and will continue to voice my anger and disagreement with the fucking world. I vote, I strike, I volunteer, I go to city planning meetings for god sake. I know what im talking about, I’m trying to make a change dude.
This constant squabbling over things that really dont matter in the end is fucking insane. We all see the politicians promise the world and deliver nothing yet we continue to play the game. The amount of times they have proved corruption is part and parcel of the system should be enough to tell you what they really want. I am just trying to point out there is another way. We dont have to play the game they dictate.
What is ignorant and sadly very human is assuming this is it.
Don’t worry about convincing them. Use their assumptions and knee-jerk left/right/whatever reactions to reign them in and point them somewhere useful.
If they fight you, they’ll have to get to know themselves to fight back effectively.
I strike
Where do you strike that is ambivalent to the left/right divide.
With the indigenous people of my country we dont see the government as end all like you
then you do not understand what a government is, what is does, nor the power it holds
No Winston you have to pick a side. Haven’t you heard?
What is the real problem? Lizard-people?
Lol fuck I wish naw it’s more complicated its us we are the fucking problem dude. More specifically politics in general is broken and doesnt work anymore maybe it used to but hasn’t lately and getting worse
Edit: for the record I do believe in all that crazy alien shit but I dont blame any of humanity’s failings on anyone but ourselves and as well with our ahievements are all our own. we are the masters of our own destiny no matter what the fuck is out there
Can we all agree to stop using terms like political left and political right in such wide context? There are a lot of complicated issues considered to be political, and using aforementioned terms is just oversimplification. There is no need for all of this, it just helps dishonest people. There is even scientific study showing impact of labeling of different proportions es left or right.
This is exactly the kind of nuance that the meme is referencing!!!
I think it’s valid to talk about left and right (in addition to other labels with more detail) as long as we have a two-party system. But I also agree that the tenancy to oversimplify everything only helps the religions fascists and the capitalists that manipulate them.
I am allergic to nuance can you please rephrase this into terms of marvel superheroes?
Lol sorry no, I’m out of the loop in regards to marvel.
as long as we have a two-party system.
So, like most of the liberals on here, you don’t actually understand why we even have such concepts like “left” and “right.”
That’s quite a statement, stranger. Amazing how you know so much about me from that one comment.
That’s quite a statement, stranger.
No. It isn’t. It’s a pretty damn mundane one.
The only way you can see anything left in the right-wing racketeering “two-party system” is if you don’t have the foggiest idea what left and right actually means.
I take it this is the first time you’ve been informed of this?
You have been extremely condescending and rude, making sweeping assumptions about me based on a few sentences. I took a look at your comment history, and it seems that this is basically all you do here, attacking others to presumably make yourself feel better.
I’m fine with disagreement, but I have better things to do than help you compensate for whatever inadequacies you think you have.
You have been extremely condescending and rude,
Perhaps if the liberal hive-mind was less immunized against reality the “condescending and rude” behavior wouldn’t be required.
making sweeping assumptions about me based
This you?
I think it’s valid to talk about left and right (in addition to other labels with more detail) as long as we have a two-party system.
So I was wrong about you being completely uninformed (at best) or grossly misinformed (at worst) about the subject matter at hand?
I’m fine with disagreement,
We haven’t disagreed on anything. In order for us to actually disagree, both of us needs to at least have a working knowledge of what it is we are talking about, don’t we?
One of us knows what the terms “left” and “right” actually means in a political context - the other doesn’t.
Nuance is not something to hide behind.
Can we all agree to stop using terms like political left and political right
No.
The left really do more social brainwashing though
This is true, the left deploys these evil ideas like “science” to brainwash you into believing their “actual ways to improve people’s lives” it’s devious.
the left deploys these evil ideas like “science”
There is legitimate honest it-really-exists propaganda put out by folks to the left of John McCain. PETA is a real thing. The Sierra Club is a real thing. The ACLU is a real thing. The DSA is real.
But the deck is stacked when you assert an advocated policy needs to be some kind of cosmological truth. I don’t need “science” to tell me that Trans-people deserve equitable treatment or that shooting your 11-month old dog in a gravel pit is bad or that billionaires shouldn’t exist. These are decidedly political views.
What’s more, when I advocate for a position, I’m not going to argue “fairly” with a bigot, a dog-murderer, or a plutocrat. I’m going to make my strongest points and my hardest digs, then leave the opposition to make its own case. Given that I’m being outspent $1M:$1, I don’t feel any need to develop a case for the TERF or a South Dakota governor or the megalomaniac profiting off lead paint sales on their behalf.
You don’t need to be objective. You can have an opinion and still be a good leftist. You can even make a passionate, moving case that’s intended to grip people on more than a purely logical level.
Don’t let the right-wing asshats scare you away from showing your humanity when you’re engaging in progressive politics.
I’m sure this meme is aimed to the US but “the left” is very broad from where I’m from and I don’t see any “science” in their propaganda to be honest. And improving people’s lives is very subjective and have various interpretations. Let’s just hear everyone from all political spectrums and vote about it shall we?
I know my damn son went to college and started liking black people just because he met some and realized that they’re human. Started believing in science too!
Years of my hard work instilling traditional values, all for nothing. Goddamn leftist brainwashing.
Do people really brainwash white children into not liking black people?
Um, yes, usually their parents. Do you not understand what racism is?
Have you been living under a rock?
Its called indoctrination and we all do it. good or bad we are indoctrinating our children with our ideas
I don’t think indoctrinating your children to not want to date people purely on race is a good thing
Most people probably don’t think doing anything based only on race is very good anymore. Unfortunately if you keep to a totally homogenous group, use only negative language to describe another group (like black people or hispanic people being this or lazy or entitled or weird names or bad music or whatever), and only associate people from those groups with causes or ideas you feel strongly negative about (BLM / border walls / etc)… You are still providing some good old fashioned indoctrination to that effect. That behavioral training will stick much deeper than any message you might give about not seeing color or similar. It’s easy to get really sideways really fast with tribal behaviors, since that’s sort of the main human distinguishing thing.
While prejudice does happen, simply getting to know the person basically destroys it completely. It’s more of a problem in policing, hiring, etc. Things that require assumptions about people to gauge important situations
OK sure 🙄. Also, why do you care whether or not those you disagree with can meme?
Because there all dumb so i must call them dumb
No. They have different values than you. You can call their values cruel and perhaps call them cruel for having them, I may agree with you. But it is absolutely wrong to call these people dumb.
nah. they’re dumb. sorry.
People don’t get that riled up over wrong opinions. It’s differing values and fundamental conflicts of interest.
