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Welcome to our new home in the Federationiverse. First of all- WOW we did not expect to surpass 300 users on this instance (and over 1K fediverse subscribers) within our first 48 hours and with little promotional effort. We are all excited to see where this long road goes.
Coming from Reddit and confused about Lemmy?
I had some stuff typed out, but honestly, this thread sums it up better. Check it out! It has infographics.
If you’re still stressed out, remember that Lemmy is still new. Yes, it’s ugly, but people said Reddit was ugly too (both are correct). As Lemmy grows, and #Rexxit continues, more tools will get made. Decentralization opens up a lot of possibilities we didn’t have before. The future is bright.
Will other communities be setting up shop besides StarTrek, DaystromInstitute and Risa?
Yes! Eventually. Right now our focus is staying online, fast, and reliable which means keeping things focused while we find our footing. Daystrom, StarTrek and Risa were chosen to start off with because the three of them cover the “srs bsns ↔ shitposting” spread quite well.
If you are part of a community interested in being hosted on startrek.website, send me a DM and we can try to work something out.
Qapla’! How can I support?
We’ve started a Patreon here: Patreon.com/treksite. There’s only one plan and it’s just $4. If our growth continues like it has, we’re going to need to upgrade our hosting very soon.
What’s up with the “unencrypted DMs” warning?
I feel like I’m not seeing everything. What gives?
Lemmy is weird with languages. In your user settings, make sure “Language” is set to both “English” and “Undetermined”. You can select additional languages as well, but they aren’t currently allowed on this server. On desktop, you can use CTRL+click to select both options. This will allow you to see content for which the author has not set a language, and content which has been set to “English”.
This will hopefully be made more clear with future updates.
Thumbnails acting weird/not showing up (for users on another instance)?
Add this exception to your adblocker (replace “lemmy.world” with your instance):
@@||*/pictrs/*$domain=lemmy.world
Where can I find official server updates?
Follow us on Mastodon for updates, scheduled maintenance, etc.
Where can I talk with Trekkies about non-Trek stuff?
We’ve just opened a new “offtopic” community, welcome to !quarks@startrek.website, Quarks is fun!
If you have any questions for the team, please don’t hesitate to ask in this thread! 🖖
Yes, I just have one question: was it a long road getting from there to here?
Yes it was, BUT OUR TIME IS FINALLY NEAR 🎶🎸
And now this tune is stuck in my head before bed lol
Any chance for a ShittyDaystrom? I don’t want to mod it (I’m a terrible mod) but I sure would love to shitpost there.
edit: seems like the only active mod on ShittyDaystrom on Reddit has ran a script to edit all their old comments, and Reddit suspended them for it. The sub on Reddit appears to be running fine with no mods. I think it would be a fine candidate for creating a community here, the people in the Reddit sub are happily shitposting Star Trek memes with no active mods at all. If someone who is not a terrible mod, like myself, would like to take it on, I seriously doubt it will be much work.
There are some huge fans of shittydaystrom on the team here, we’ll definitely be hosting a community for that eventually. For the moment, we’re worried about fracturing users by creating too many different communities.
If you have a shittydaystrom appropriate thing you want to post, stick it in /c/Risa. I’ll upvote it.
Sounds good to me, I’ll wait till you guys get it sorted out. Thanks a lot for doing this!
Hi, I’ve just been reading about the case to defederate from fb/meta instances (https://startrek.website/post/289809?scrollToComments=true) and was wondering if the team was aware of the fedipact?
We’re aware of the pact and will cross that bridge when (or if) it ever really happens. We’re certainly no fans of Meta (or Reddit,or Twitter). So far it seems more likely to affect Mastodon than Lemmy/Kbin.
Thanks for being on top of things and thanks for this instance
You are most welcome 🖖
Thanks I will keep an eye out for updates. For this user federating with meta would feel like assimilating with the borg.
Sharing user data with a an instance with a firm that exists to monetize data seems a fundamental violation of what the fediverse is.
The “user data” (comments, posts, votes, etc) that would be available to a hypothetical instance owned my Meta is already public for anyone, so not much we have control over there. “Defederating” essentially just means “blanket banning” a bunch of users at once.
Agreed that it’s public now - in the case of up/downvoting publication is instance-dependent — and can be scraped, but as a federated instance Meta can just load it directly.
True, but if Meta (or anyone) wanted to “directly” get that data, it would be as trivial as setting up an instance on something as small as a Raspberry Pi and subscribing to a community here. We would have no way of knowing who it is or stopping them. Defederation is a tool to prevent brigading, not lurking.
If (if) Meta wanted to set a lemmy-style platform, preemptively defederating from it would be a largely symbolic gesture. Doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing, like I said we’ll cross that bridge if and when it becomes relevant.
@StillPaisleyCat Federating only happens through user interactions unless you have agreements between instance hosts IIRC. Not there wouldn’t possibly be a huge amount of Threads users following Mastodon accounts which would then push the Mastodon user’s profile/posts into a federated or “global” feed in Threads. Federation in itself isn’t an all you can eat pass to Fediverse data. Defederation would stop the above example of data sharing though.
@StillPaisleyCat TBH with Threads only having an algorithmic feed I have serious doubts they’ll ever be able to truly “Federate” in any meaningful way beyond being able to tick a checkbox for ActivityPub integration. They aren’t going to want me using a Mastodon client to be able to read their chronological feed and not be served ads.
I don’t know if it’s affecting other instances, but all images from startrek.website are denying referrals to image links from lemmy.sdf.org. In other words, all image posts show up as broken unless I open them in a new tab and refresh so the referrer becomes startrek.website. It’s not affecting any of my other subbed instances, and when I open startrek.website it works fine, so I suppose something’s breaking in the in-between?
It’s a ublock/easylist issue. It seems to be blanket blocking xhr requests to certain TLDs including .website
Add this to your filters as a workaround for now (replace lemm.ee with your instance)
@@||*/pictrs/*$domain=lemm.eeOh! Thank you so much, that worked a treat. o7
Ad Astra!
Was pretty skeptical about all this stuff, but it seems like y’all have succeeded in moving a good chunk of people from Reddit to this new place, which hopefully bodes well for the future.
Hopefully y’all will be able to keep moderation functioning well, especially considering that a lot of Folks’ll stay split between here and the Reddit subs. Like the biggest reason (IMO, of course) that r/DaystromInstitute is/was one of the best subs out there was just how effective the moderators are/were.
The Daystrom people are cream of the crop. They also seem very dedicated to the idea of migrating their community out of reach from spez. I think we’ve all been surprised by the enthusiasm, especially considering how Lemmy is still very much beta software (but quickly evolving).
Awwww. Thanks guys!
Was pretty skeptical about all this stuff, but it seems like y’all have succeeded in moving a good chunk of people from Reddit to this new place, which hopefully bodes well for the future.
As long as there is enough people here to have a thriving discussion, we can be self-sustaining.
I agree. Star Trek already over 4k and Daystrom rising quickly together with Risa both over 1k. That is an impressive number it has to be said. Well done.
Subbed and so glad to be here.
Hi! I have questions on how federation works on Lemmy. In Mastodon, if someone post something from an other instance, I can see it directly, if me or someone else from my own instance follow the poster. I thought it worked like that in Lemmy too, but I started following some communities in other instances, and I can’t see all the new messages (for example, compare !france@lemmy.world and startrek.website/c/france@lemmy.world; if you have the same problem as me, a lot of new messages will not appear, even if I subscribed a few days ago). Is it a problem from Lemmy, a decision from startrek.website, or a problem with my account precisely?
Thanks for your help!
I’m finding the same. There seems to have been and in some cases still is some kind of syncing issue.
There are even a few cases where I’ve subscribed to other communities on the same instance and content is loading through without difficulty.
For one instance, I unsubscribed and resubscribed after a couple of days and then started to see some posts and comments, but for others they are still empty even though I can see through browsing the Lemmy Community-Browser that there is activity from instances we are federated with.
I’ve noticed that too. I’m subscribed to a few communities that are still completely empty on this instance.
I’m new to these kinds of sites, but like to think I can navigate my way, haha. It’s great and kind of refreshing that everything is so interconnected though and only need one sign in to view across content!
I’ve tried using Mastodon app and this other website called Beehaw. So, in my experience I can sub, but in order to see content from here I have to physically navigate through the communities > subscribed page.
I’m just going to be patient with it… it’s propably just buggy because it’s new. :P
Fwiw, I am very happy to support the patreon but I don’t feel great about it being attached to server perks. For some people $4/mo is nothing at all and for others it is genuinely significant. I don’t want the Star Trek instance of all instances to be rewarding those who can afford to contribute financially.
That’s a good point I hadn’t considered, appreciate the insight. As long as we can pay the bills with what comes in, I suppose for now we’ll just stick with what we’ve got.
Hooray, thank you! Fwiw, it is the donations model that is most common in FOSS projects (pay what/if you can) and I think it engenders a better sense of community, and I certainly feel more inclined to pay for something just so support it rather than because of any particular “perks” I might get, which are geeeenerally not really worth the money per se. I also would prefer your time to be spent on the actual server and not on having to integrate the various perks/linking accounts to patreon/etc etc.
The only perk we had in mind thus far was some user flair (whenever that inevitably gets invented). But you make a great point. Still getting used to this egalitarian perspective.
Still getting used to this egalitarian perspective.
Welcome to the Federation (in both senses)!
Maybe we could just reward people with ferengi themed flair for donating on patreon? Then all other types of flair could be kept unrelated to money or ferengis and be rewarded for stuff that doesn’t require money :P
lwaxana_katana, great point. I agree with you. It’s something I hadn’t thought about until you mentioned it. I’d rather see time and energy go to making startrek.website more and more awesome, rather than have something that differentiates the can donate from the can’t donate. Sometimes I have spare quatloos; sometimes I’m searching the couch cushion for quatloos. Startrek.website knows who donates. I think that’s good enough.
Sorry for not doing your name correctly. I’m still learning and not yet at the how to direct a comment at a particular person part of my learning curve.
Especially if it’s international, 3 credits isn’t the same for everywhere.
Hey! Just wanted to say thanks to the admins here. I was interested inblemmy but didn’t know where to jump on until I saw the startrek server then I knew I was ready to move along home.
Alamarian!
That warms my cold android heart to hear. We set this place exactly for people like you who wanted a good jumping off point. Welcome!
Is there a way to get rid of the space on the left and right sides of the screen and make comments and posts cover the whole browser window like old Reddit does?
Go into your user settings and set the theme to “mintybubble”
It’s completely ugly, but it is full-width. yes, it’s in our future plans to have a better theme(s).
OUR SYSADMIN HAS INFORMED ME THAT I’M A MORON
Hell yeah, thank you! One more question, are there plans to update to 0.18 so we can use it with Jerboa?
V. 0.18 disables CAPTCHA support, which we’re not willing to do at this time, as there are a lot of bots on the platform. It’s supposed to be re-instated in 0.18.1, so we’re probably going to wait for that.
From what we understand, it should be possible to simply bypass the warning that Jerboa sends, and use the instance as normal - let us know if that’s not the case.
Also, the instance can be installed as a PWA through Chrome on Android phones - I’ve found that to be a good experience overall.
That is a fair reason for not updating, thank you for the explanation :) And unless I am missing something it straight up will not let me log in.
Ah shoot, I just confirmed this. We had tried it with Jerboa, but we were already logged in.
While we consider our options, I would suggest accessing the instance through your web browser. I don’t think you’ll have any issues doing it that way, and the mobile interface is pretty decent.
I don’t think there is just yet.
I realize I’m kind of a PITA with my idiosyncrasies, but I’d like you to consider a way of taking ‘one and done’ donations. I tend to avoid recurring automated subscriptions.
There might be others like me, and you could pickup a couple dollars here and there from one-offs.
I don’t have a lemmy acct anywhere at this point, but I like what you’re doing, and I spend time here, so I’d like to support you without making a commitment.
That’s a great point! Also I’m very happy to hear we were your entry into the “threadiverse”. We’ll look into some options.
How about a cool graphic / logo and some merch to promote the server?
Not a bad idea for the future!
Why “startrek.website”? When the “.social” and “.news” TLD exist and seem more fitting?
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It was one of the few that wasn’t taken.
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It made us laugh.
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@loremipsum @Admin also, the copyright owners are a bit shitty regarding fan things, not sure how they will react to this domain.
Is this instance currently taking new registrations? It might be good to get a PSA out…
I understand you’re running 17.4 so captcha can be used. My understanding was this was done because new signups are being allowed.
When I look at various aggregators of Lemmy instance information however, w keep seeing that startrek.website is closed to signup.
Take for example the information available through Lemmy - Fediverse Network Statistics posted on fedidb.org.
As there are a significant number of unhappy redditors just now who might wish to join Lemmy but are discouraged, it would be good to confirm.
I really appreciate the simple pathway that was offered for users on r/startrek back before the subs went dark June 12th. It was a successful migration for me mostly, but I understand that there’s a largish crowd of frustrated folks who haven’t made it through.
Registrations are technically restricted to be by application only, but the bar for a successful application is incredibly low.
Unfortunately, open registration led to a flood of bot accounts across the entire Lemmy network, so that’s not a viable option.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
Unfortunately these aggregator pages, including the Lemmy Fediverse Observer create the impression that the site is closed completely vs. taking reasonable precautions to ensure verifiable signups.
I would recommend that any Redditors experiencing difficulty reach out to the r/startrek mod team - they should be able to coordinate support.
Thanks for this.
There was a new wave of frustrated folks looking for help on r/lemmy yesterday, mostly for lemmy.world which sounds like it was overwhelmed again, but not only that instance.
I can drop this suggestion when I see a new complaint in the megathead.
I’m mainly just on Reddit to help some of my longtime chat buddies ale the migration.
