I’m not sure what “mistake” Biden could be repeating here. If he dies in office, Harris becomes President.
If they want to argue that if he dies before the election that leaves the Democrats with no clear candidate which would lead to a Trump win they need to be more clear about that.
Harris, undoubtably, would see herself as the candidate as the sitting President, which makes sense, see Johnson - 1964, but her unpopularity even among her own staff would make her unelectable.
But that’s not a Biden problem and that’s not the same mistake Ginsberg made.
My only real concern is if he dies after getting on the ballot, but before January 20th. We need him in a plastic bubble those months.
There’s a fantastic novel on the topic called “The People’s Choice” by Jeff Greenfield of all people.
Here’s the scenario:
Election happens, winner dies, but he dies before the electoral certification.
VP thinks he’s the candidate, but he isn’t.
The 2nd place finisher argues he should be President as the next largest vote getter.
Faithless electors then decide who becomes President.
In reality, electors are generally party loyalists. They would vote along party lines, probably for the VP.
Look, my ONLY goal is to have D’s in leadership because the alternative ushers in a totalitarian fascist hellscape russian client state. If Brandon fucks off to the next life while in office, I don’t care. His replacement won’t be a traitor.
No other consideration carries any weight.
Its an election of Hindenburg vs Hitler. It doesn’t matter. By participation you’re only giving it legitimacy.
BoTh SiDeS!!!1!
Go read up on Hindenburg. He also was the “lesser of two evils”. That’s the comparison I’m making.
False equivalency, fuck off.
Fallacy fallacy reconsider the argument.
No u. Also, fuck off fascist.
seems to me they are teh one who wants to stop fascism
Remember when we weren’t allowed to have a real primary in 2020 because Bernie was too much of a risk because Trump might get a second term? The left remembers…
How was there not a real primary?
The party organized a mass dropout of non-Warren neolibs (Obama literally called Mayor Pete and Klobuchar per reporting from the time) to consolidate the right wing vote behind Biden despite him coming in around 5th in the pre-South Carolina states as they panicked when Bernie was winning. That’s why they promoted South Carolina in the primary, the DNC will never carry it within our lifetimes, but it has a tiny, party-over-principles democrat electorate they can dictate the vote of in a way they can’t other early states.
All true but I don’t agree that this meant there wasn’t a primary. They just conspired to win the primary.
Also, don’t presume to know the future. Maybe the revolution will start in South Carolina. State politics don’t change overnight but they are also not as static as we often assume.
I’d argue a Russian-style “election” isn’t an election, since the result is preordained by a single group of oligarchs, so it wasn’t really a primary in 2020. I guess the bright side is now they don’t even pretend to let their electorate vote anymore, so it’s honest at least.
Even if the DNC started having token primaries again (which I’m skeptical of now that they’re openly using their national party power to bar candidates from state primary ballots) even a Schumer-backed Obama-style “revolution” from within the party’s center-right leadership will be rendered impossible with South Carolina as the first state. It’s alllllllll Hillaries from here on out…
Yeah, I’m confused about this take. RBG should have stepped down because by not doing it she created the opportunity for Trump to tilt the majorities in the Supreme Court. Notably, nobody had the balls to criticise her for it, even after she died and made that exact thing happen.
If Biden dies in office Trump doesn’t get to pick the vice president. And somehow he still gets constant crap despite the other guy being just as old.
We’re doing “but her emails” again. I thought we weren’t gonna do “but her emails” again.
I have a feeling that if Biden dies in office, suddenly there will be this concern whether Harris was born in Kenya and can’t be president and the Speaker of the House should be elevated instead (assuming the GOP maintain their leadership).
If the president dies in office, the constitution requires the vice president to become president. It doesn’t matter if anyone has concerns, there is no mechanism to prevent the VP from taking over.
The constitution also requires that the vice president to meet all the conditions for a president. The constitution also requires that the president appoint judges and that the Senate confirms them.
Look, I’m not disagreeing with you. But at the end of the day, the constitution is just a piece of paper. Its power is in the individual people who swear to honor, uphold, and protect it. One party has definitely shown that they won’t do that.
I’m not holding my breath that the Republicans will do the right thing if power is to be had.
My point is that there is no opportunity for Republicans to do the right thing, wrong thing, or anything at all. Succession is automatic.
LBJ was sworn in only two hours after JFK died. While he was flying home on Air Force One.
Unlike appointing judges, there was no need for action on the part of Congress and therefore no way for the GOP to stop him. LBJ didn’t even need the SCOTUS, a lower judge administered the oath and it was all over. If the GOP had a problem with LBJ’s qualifications, the only recourse would be impeachment after the fact.
there is no opportunity for Republicans to do the right thing, wrong thing, or anything at all. Succession is automatic.
Not if SCOTUS disagrees
Precedent has no binding control over what they will do
The SCOTUS can’t hear a case on two hours notice. So if they have anything to say, it would be after the succession.
Even some expected to be in Biden’s corner [including] liberal comedian Jon Stewart.
What. The. Fuck.
Jon Stewart is in Biden’s corner, he’s just being honest that age is a concern. If you watch his segment you’d see he dropped a big steaming dump on Trump.
And, as an aside, to avoid having your candidate critiqued for their age just fucking run a different candidate.
