Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.
“I’ll take the individual who’s 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,” Swalwell said, making a reference to President Biden’s age in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday.
“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”
Swalwell’s comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.
You know what, Brandon is too old. But I’m voting for him anyway because I’ll be damned if I ever vote (passively or actively) for a filthy republican traitor cunt.
I would agree, but I kinda got forced to vote for a Republican Warden last election. The previous guy (Dem) and his administration had just overseen the worst case of prisoner deaths in a US jail, and the person the Dems ran to replace him was his deputy warden of the same administration.
The rest of my ticket was solid blue, or green.
Edit: I did look into the republican guy. He at least didn’t have huge scandals, just some small acts of assholery
I get it. It’s like voting for LDPR becase it is FPTP(municipal elections) and other “choice” is fucking United Russia.
We are lucky they’re both old. For a moment a couple years ago I was afraid DeSantis or Haley might actually be the nominee.
He’s old, and as a leader he leaves a lot to be desired.
Having said that, he has a pretty good team. He has a lot of competent people in his cabinet, and they’ve achieved some pretty good things. I wish he’d run more on the strength of his team, rather than himself.
Trump can never run on the strength of his team because his team are incompetent sycophants. The only thing that matters to him is loyalty, so he’ll reward loyalty with cabinet positions. He can’t even name a cabinet because he’s so fickle that a rumour will come that someone said something bad and he’ll throw one of his cabinet members under the bus.
Trump just has three criteria. Attractiveness, fealty, or bribery. I. No particular order unless female, the only attractiveness seems to matter.
He’s saying this like Trump being 77 is somehow young or any different than Biden being 81
Clearly it is because 4 years ago, when Biden was 77 the election didn’t revolve around age.
I’m just going to throw it out that I think people are only looking at the first number and don’t care about the second one, kinda like in stores 9.99 seems much cheaper than 10.00 despite the actual difference only being a penny. It’s not a 77 year old vs an 81 year old, it’s 70 year old vs 80 year old. 70 year old is an old man, 80 year old is your demented grandpa.
There were definitely people 4 years ago trying to make the discourse about age but it didn’t really take hold.
They did the same crap for Hillary in 2016, proclaiming she was at death’s door. For some weird reason, she’s still alive despite all this rhetoric from the radicalized right wing and their Russian pals.
You can make the claim for anyone 65 and up truthfully. That’s the downside of running old ass candidates.
Absolutely. I think the argument was just as valid as it was 4 years ago, but now for some reason people seem to perceive it a lot more and specifically more with Biden than Trump.
According to actuarial tables it’s actually significantly more valid now than it was before. There’s something like a 90% chance that Biden experiences cognitive decline in the next 4 years (assuming he lives that long). And that’s not surprising since 50% of people over the age of 70 experience cognitive decline in America (and it’s higher for males).
Ignoring it last election for both candidates was a mistake. And Biden and Trump should both in theory put out a “I’m fine but if I develop dementia during the next turn this is the plan” plan. For Biden, that will help a lot of people who are on the fence between him and nobody see him as a better candidate and turn out in higher percentages.
Low turnout is the main thing Biden should fear. He will loose a low turnout election.
He’s clearly suffering cognitive decline already. It’s not the dementia that Republicans would like to claim, but I think he would be in trouble facing a competent Republican opponent.
And Biden and Trump should both in theory put out a “I’m fine but if I develop dementia during the next turn this is the plan” plan. For Biden, that will help a lot of people who are on the fence between him and nobody see him as a better candidate and turn out in higher percentages.
I believe that’s called a running mate, and not too many people seem keen on a President Harris.
Sure but how long would he try to hold onto power? What level of decline would trigger his resignation? What things is he doing to ensure VP Harris is ready for a takeover etc…
Just showing that he has done the planning necessary is a huge step. Nobody wants another vegetable like Dementia ridden Reagan or Stroked out Woodrow Wilson; whose stroke status led to him botching the WW1 peace process and directly contributed to WW2… Right now his (Biden’s) campaign is pretending that any sort of cognitive decline is a complete impossibly and that’s just irresponsible.
My nightmare scenario since he picked her was that he would claim the 2024 nomination as an encombant, then resign after two years. We’re going to have to wait until 2036 before we get another primary, since Harris will be eligible for two full terms after finishing out Biden’s second. Democratic voters soundly rejected her in 2020, but the establishment will be forcing her on us anyways.
The comments by septics on Biden’s age reek of ageism.
His age is irrelevant. Can he do the fucking job?
Yes?
Then vote for him.
The poor bastard is destroying his retirement, health and twilight years to stop the US falling to fascism and all you can do is whine about his age?
I don’t think it’s particularly ageist to say that octogenarians should generally be avoided for a 4 year commitment to leadership roles. It’s no more ageist than barring 16 year olds from the job imo.
That said, in a battle between risky to lose competence midway and blatantly incompetent now the former always wins
Dark Brandon’s last act will be to bring about the first female US president. Based.
Agreed. That being said it sucks to be stuck choosing between two ppl who won’t live long enough to see the ramifications of their decisions and policies.
This right here. He didn’t have to run again. Right now he needs our support and deserves at least a hardy thanks of appreciation. He came out of retirement to stop trump and the maggats. If I could buy him a beer or a very expensive scotch I would.
Republican: He has 91 felony charges and in debt for AT LEAST 355 million dollars. Let’s make him our president, make this country GREAT AGAIN! 🙏
Around $440MM if you throw in the $83MM he owes in that recent defamation suit
I’m sure being in so much debt wouldn’t influence the odds of him being corrupted by foreign interests…
100% odds cannot get any higher, so new debt won’t influence that.
Isn’t Trump 77? It’s not like he’s some young buck. The argument against Biden’s age is quite strained when your own candidate is almost just as old.
It isn’t a comparison between 81 and 77 I’m concerned about. They are both too old to run for presidency!
Two candidates pre retirement age would be great about now.
It isn’t a comparison between 81 and 77 I’m concerned about.
Tell that to all the trumpsters who complain about Biden’s age. They don’t seem to be particularly concerned about Trump’s age.
They can’t detect hypocrisy and much less spell it.
What if we had more choices? Why does our choice have to an old ass man and an old ass man with felonies.
They are all missing the point.
You have plenty of choices, none of them are viable other than R vs D because there are 350 million people in the US and they’re mostly all going to vote based on established branding of the big 2 parties. Convincing everyone to vote 3rd party in a FPTP electoral system is literally impossible.
most people don’t vote