• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    What’s fun is that I regularly ask, “who should I vote for to prevent Trump from being president?” I rarely get an answer, but I do get told I support genocide. It’s extra-fun when I tell them I want to stop Trump to stop people like my queer daughter from being the victims of a genocide. That often makes them double down on telling me how much I want there to be a genocide.

    I’ve even been told I should care more about people on the other side of the world than my own daughter’s life.

    I am extremely sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and absolutely condemn Israel’s genocide… but at the expense of my own child’s life? Fuck no.

    Anything to stop Trump and Republicans from putting queer people in “conversion” camps where they’re tortured to death. Because that’s the goal.

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      You need to stop having those conversations and focus on what’s important. Right now, if the election were to be held, Trump wins in a landslide according to the polls (assuming EC more or less follows the popular trend).

      What do you need to do before November to ensure that your queer daughter is protected in the extremely likely case of a 2nd Trump administration?

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        I just hope they learn before it’s too late that the people who stand idly by and/or vote in support of genocide of Palestinians because they’re not Palestinian are the same people who will do the same with queer people like us because they’re not queer.

        They’re already turning the corner on immigrants. The recent Dem bill is more extreme than any border laws passed under Trump. And now it’s getting even more extreme with the new bipartisan version.

        Stop using us as a shield to protect your horrific genocide. I wonder if their daughter even knows they’re appropriating her queerness to support slaughtering tens of thousands of children.

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          It’s not a Dem bill; it’s a bipartisan bill. It was the Democrats compromising in order to save Ukraine.

          And your last paragraph is just disgusting. No one’s using you as a shield here. And no one is ‘appropriating her queerness’.

          Do you have any idea what you’re even going on about? You seem to feel pretty strongly about it while not knowing what you’re talking about. That or you’re just buying into some sort of propaganda without thinking about it, which I guess amounts to the same.

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            They’re actually correct in how this thread is using queer people as shields for Israel’s genocide

            There are queer Palestinians as well. Although there are far fewer today than there were 5 months ago

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      Last election I got to vote for “grab 'em by the pussy” or “black kids are just as good as rich kids” (or something similar. I can’t remember the quote exactly and I don’t have time to look it up).

      This election I get to vote for genocide or genocide. I can’t wait.

      Edit: I’ll take Biden over Trump any day. Trump terrifies me. I’m terrified of how many Americans are going to die if he wins. But I hate that these are our options.

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        Maybe vote to stop genocide of people in the country in which you live over a genocide that would happen whether or not Biden was in office because Trump would support it too.

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          Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

          Show me 1000’s of queer people being starved, left without power, medical help, water.

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            Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

            The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?

            But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.

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              Idgaf who you vote for.

              Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

              I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.

              Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.

              You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

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                The whole phrase ‘bypassing Congress’ is propaganda. It’s literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he’s doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.

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                  It is legal, it is backhanded, and to add onto it. I believe he ran it by Congress later on, and they okayed it.

                  That doesn’t change the fact that he did it, and bypassed congressional oversight.

                  We can’t be OK with someone else being what we don’t want them to be this because they’re on our side.

                  If you don’t call out your own side, just as much as you call anyone else’s, then it just doesn’t matter.

                  Why are we all calling out Israel so much but aren’t surprised at what Hamas?

                  Because one is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be fucking done, and the other is people that we thought were going to be better than that being so much worse than we thought they were.

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                    I am not saying it’s okay. In fact, in the comment you replied to, I said I don’t approve.

                    We need laws to prevent this sort of action.

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        I can’t believe anyone is so fucking willfully ignorant they can’t see how much worse Trump is, but here we are.