• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Always makes me laugh when the country that sells “cheese” in spray cans or as plastic slices calls other countries’ food bad.

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      Laugh while you can. Shelf stable cheese is going to be real handy when WW3 breaks out.

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          Yeah, that’s like saying when there’s food shortages at least you’ll have pepper spray to flavour your sawdust.

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            It’s the same universe though, and the studios mostly collaborate on the overarching story.

            I think the big team up event is going to be a big disappointment though. Too many characters to follow all the storylines, and you have to watch the shows too if you really want to keep up.

            The whole thing doesn’t seem very inviting to new audiences.

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      You guys always miss the point, we have your cheese, and our cheese, and synth cheese, and any other cheese you want. Imported European cheese? Yep. Craft cheeses from Wisconsin? Any kind you can think of. Cow, goat, buffalo, sheep, cashew, chicken, fire-ant, whatever. I can go to Costco and get a 72lb wheel of Parmigiano reggiano, aged 2 years, shipped to my door within a few days. I can go to town and visit a number of delis and get a pound of anything sliced fresh. I can go to the grocery chain store and get a presliced pound or go to their full in store deli for more options. If I’m having a burger I might go for the classic American cheese slices. We also have a cheese flavored product in a can that is good when you are tired of living. You have only high quality cheese because there isn’t room on your tiny European shelf for the sheer variety of bullshit we also have.

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          Internet Europeans seem to think we don’t have bakeries or breweries or dairy…ies… so it’s only fair to assume the inverse.

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          No, but you guys seems to think we only are aware of craft singles and can cheese. That’s our lowest level of cheese. I was trying to explain that despite your opinions, we actually do have food here.

          Edit: Saying “we actually have that too” doesn’t mean in any way “Europe has no grocery stores”. I thought you guys had the good schools?

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            You literally said we have small shelves that can’t have a wide range of food. Read your own comment lol

            Did you even go to school?

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              I also said we had cheese made of fire ant milk. Google hyperbole, then get back to me.

              Of course I went to school, I’m an American, where do you think I learned to bar the door from gunmen?

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                  Oh sorry for not being serious enough in the memes community. I’ll be sure to bring my dissertation next time about how your mom sucked me good and hard through my jorts.

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    Also, adding neon green food coloring to your fucking peas isn’t a poverty move. That food coloring isn’t free. And it’s probably shrinking your balls.

    Sorry, I guess that would be “bollocks.”

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    You know what else is poor food? Duck confit.

    You know what else? Soul food is literally food made from things slaves got and grew themselves. Like, it’s below poor food and it’s absolutely amazing.

    There’s poverty food from all over the world that’s amazing. The English are just bad at food.

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      We have different definitions of what amazing is. Poor food, is only poor food, because people with money choose better things because those better things have a higher taste ceiling, therefore poor food can only ever be average at best, else is it really poor food?

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        That’s a bit wrong. Poverty food was poverty food a lot of time just because it wasn’t trendy for the rich and royals to eat the same food as the common people. They may even have preferred the poor food, but they couldn’t eat that in view of others.

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      All Mexican food is delicious, but that’s not a difficult feat when you fry everything and smother it with cheese and sauces. Heck man, they even have a chicken dish that’s mixed with chocolate. They’re all about flavor, health and fitness be damned.

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        You ever have a guac or huitlacoche taco? Delicious and incredibly nutritious.

        Still poor people food.

        Also, not nearly as much Mexican food as you think is fried or cheese centric and moles are a hugely important facet of Mesoamerican cuisine and can vary in terms of how calorie packed they are.

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    I thought this was an interesting topic of one of the episodes of chef’s table (netflix docuseries). The chef focused on what real “american” cuisine looks like, and since cuisine typically comes out of hardship, American food doesn’t have as distinct of an identity since the USA has typically been a country of “plenty.” Was really a fascinating point, and it made me look at food culture in a very different way

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      I dunno man, the Pretzel Bun wasn’t really popularized until after Millenials couldn’t afford houses

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        Lol fair. Though I don’t mean to suggest that there is no hardship anywhere in the US (i think that’s why chicken wings became popular), but across the board, food has historically been more easily accessible in the US than most nations than pre existed it. Sure there are some regional delicacies, but no true US cuisine. I’m sure that could be partially explained by the geographic size as well, but there are some distinct differences in UK cuisine even though those cultures are significantly closer.

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          The US is too big to have a unified cuisine. The UK is hard to compare to because even their accents vary much more across a small geographic area, their cultural regions are strictly divided and enforced thanks to deeply entrenched classism and social pressure.

          Also I just flat disagree that cuisines like Cajun/Creole or Tex Mex or Southwest/Santa Fe don’t qualify as true US cuisines.

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      That sounds really interesting, you’ve made me curious about this topic now; I’m not a documentary kind of person, but I’m probably going to read about it later.

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      I think it’s more that the US is a very recent country and was a melding of many cultures, plus the sheer size of the country and diversity of the ingredients found around the country.

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    This keeps coming up like British chefs aren’t household names in America.

    Also, spotted dick is awesome.

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      British food is unironically amazing.

      Roast dinners, English Breakfast, British-Indian cuisine, cakes/puddings, pies and pastries, casseroles, cheeses, fucking sandwiches, a well-executed fish and chips. Shit, even super basic stuff like Macaroni cheese can taste really good if it’s made with some good technique.

      But what’s even more amazing is the US’s ability to push stereotypes based on WW2 rationing even into the 2020s.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      like British chefs aren’t household names in America

      I dunno, they’re taking a massive beating lately from Uncle Roger.

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      Famous for their French cuisine.

      But I’m just ribbing; Toad in the hole is fucking delicious.

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      British food is a bit like the English language. We robbed everyone else of all the best bits which could get our hands on. We then reimagined them. “Chinese” and “Indian” food are good examples of this.

      For proper good English food, you have to go back a bit. It tended to be simple, high quality food, done well. The traditional roast is a good example. Along with its fancy cousin, the beef wellington. A good stew, or casserole can be amazing, when done well. A lot of “rich people” food gets thrown in with “french cuisine”.

      Beyond those you have the traditional dishes, things like a ploughman’s lunch, or a shepherds/cottage pie. Suet pies can be wonderful if done right, and desserts like carrot cake can be excellent. Even the classic British fried breakfast can be a thing of beauty, with proper care.

      Unfortunately, almost all of these have been heavily bastardised now. The big supermarkets have conditioned us to crap food. Even finding good ingredients is a challenge now. The fruit and veg we get are dire, and it’s difficult to build a mighty tower on poor foundations.

      Oh, and also remember, we exported a LOT of our food around the world. British cuisine formed a baseline for measuring other cultures to be measured against.

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        A lot of “rich people” food gets thrown in with “french cuisine”.

        A lot of British “rich people” food is french cuisine. What with your nobles being basically french for some time, and also having a boner for our rich fucks’ ways for a long time after that

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          The whole situation is fairly incestuous (a bit like the old money rich). If an English ‘french’ cook improved something, it would get rolled into ‘french’ cooking. It could even flow back to the ‘french’ cooks in France, given time. At this point we just don’t know anymore how information flowed.

          On top of that, anything that seems to match the French style gets thrown in with French cuisine. Whether it was actually a French invention or not doesn’t matter.

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    All that hoity-toity British “poor” food, only available at restaurants. Meanwhile, tacos are literally found on the streets the world over, where they are always delicious.

    What I’m saying is: 🌮 > 🇬🇧

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    Blows my mind every time I get reminded of toast sandwiches - it’s treated with the same sense of normalcy that I would have for, say, microwave ramen

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    Yeah because the British are a historically poor country right? Not like South America or Asia!

    What those people do to beans should be considered a war crime.

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      People that take the “haha British food bad” meme this seriously are peak redditor.

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        Yes, although the American ones come in a different, much more sugary sauce, which has led to Americans being confused as to why people would put it on toast and top with cheese.

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          UK food has lots of seasoning, I really don’t know where this meme comes from.

          The UK actually has spicier food than anywhere else in Europe. The only other countries really being Spain and Hungary.

          Even putting aside how massive British-Indian cuisine is here, there’s extensive use of English mustard, which is spicy (try it if you haven’t, it’s nothing like American or Dijon mustards), and horseradish, which is basically wasabi.

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          They abandoned the spices when France did. The reason? Poor people could also afford spices so it was no longer a status symbol. The new status symbol was simple meals of very fresh meat and vegetables cooked with complicated methods requiring many hours and loads of practice.