I originally posted this on the other site back when I took the picture, and it resulted in a lot of confused comments, especially from Americans, eventually getting removed by overzealous mods. Either way, I promise you that this date does not exist, and has never existed.
American here, that didn’t expire on February 29th, it will expire on the second of Viginti-September. Easy mistake to make.
Viginti-September 2 is my birthday!
When read in the only proper order, it translates (for the non-technical types), to February 23rd, 2029.
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I’m so tired of this “proper order” date debate among regions. Can’t we just accept that there can be more than one correct way to do things?
We commonly write dates 02/29/23 because we speak or write “February 29th 2023” while in other languages, it’s customary to speak or write “29th of February 2023” leading them to the common format 29/02/23.
Edit: to curb the ISO standard comments, yes, that is the most efficient and organized way to write a date, but how many of you speak dates in ISO format? If you don’t commonly say “2023 February 29th” out loud, then you intrinsically understand that not all situations call for the ISO standard.
No, ISO 8601 is the proper order. YYYY-MM-DD.
Wait, so month comes before day? I’ve been doing it right all along?
Please stop. That is another correct way to do it, and I said there is more than one, not two.
The reason why it’s superior is (mostly) just because it removes that ambiguity of whether your region lists months or days first. By using a global standard you are still able to prefer whatever method of speaking it, but especially in situations around health and safety the less chance for confusion the better.
Like, the whole “flammable” vs “inflammable” label is another problem if someone incorrectly assumes inflammable is the equivalent of non-flammable.
I am familiar with the ISO format and use it every day. But let me ask you, do you speak dates in ISO format? If not, then you understand it isn’t always the best format for the situation.
Yes.
The ISO is an organization trying to get everyone on the same page, they are the accepted standard globally. If you see ISO and you go against it, you better have a damn good reason and you’ll be liable everytime.
When was the last time you spoke a date in ISO format? Do you say “2023 February 29th?” If not, you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
Is this about spoken words or written words…?
It’s about the correct standard, which if exists, should be the same whether spoken or written. I’m saying that no such standard exists, and there are different correct ways depending on the situation/region.
- Last time I spoke a date. When I speak it’s either February 23rd or 2023 February 23rd.
- Yes.
I’m so tired of this “proper order” date debate among regions. Can’t we just accept that there can be more than one correct way to do things?
International Organization for Standardization (ISO) be like:
The reason you keep hearing about it is because people won’t use the standard
you actually think you’ll be able to convince anyone even remotely stupid or stubborn to use this? you must have never tried anything like this before then…
Well yeah, I never expected it to work…
When was the last time you spoke dates to anyone in ISO? If you don’t ever say the year before the month and day, then you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
Spoken and written don’t need to use the same format. Time also isn’t spoken using the written format hhmmss.
So then we agree there is more than one correct date format.
It happens a few times a month, when dealing with something important to make sure people understand, same reason as to why I sometimes say times in a 24h format.
Written language doesn’t have to follow spoken language. The ISO is for written things not spoken.
Other languages including English, from England. We also say the 29th of February.
I’m not implying you can’t say “of” in English, but it’s common (and shorter) to say “Feb 29th.” It is not however correct to say “Feb 29th” in many other languages, which is why Europe made day first dates the regional standard. And just like with the imperial vs metric systems, England has shifted to more often use Europe’s standard rather than the one they came up with themselves.
Are you trolling or just incapable of acknowledging that you can speak a date differently than its written representation? The entire reason for any standard is just to ensure you’re working within a known/consistent framework. You can measure in imperial or metric but you can’t label an imperial or metric unit as the opposite just because you prefer it that way.
If I hand you glass of milk with a skull and crossbones sticker on it why would you assume it’s harmful when in my region it’s used to signify its high calcium content? I can say “poison” or I can say “milk”, but a skull should never be interchangeably used.
In the same way, a date written in a global standard format should always be immediately recognized as signifying ONE particular date, and you’re then free to localize it however you please.
Not trolling. I just think all three formats are correct and I can’t understand why everyone must demand their way is the only correct way.
It’s usually easy to determine which order the person commenting observes too, just from context. I’ve never understood the confusion.
we speak or write February 29th 2023.
oh, yeah? Remind me of the date of “America’s birthday” again?
1776/07/04, which is commonly written July 4th 1776 as well as 4th of July 1776. All three ways are correct. What’s your point?
I am engaging in what is commonly known as a joke, jape, jackanapery, tomfoolery, silliness or knavery.
Everyone’s getting the dates wrong, it’s clearly the 23rd month of 2902 👍
Lousy Smarch weather…
Remember, kids, not to ever compute dates yourselves. Use a library for that.
I’ve made that mistake a couple times, sending bills to people for things like April 31st. Have since swapped to letting python make calendars for me.
I think you’ll find the 23rd of February exists. Fuck knows what preservatives are in those things to last a bit over 5 years.
So you’re agreeing with the comment you’re replying to?
Well that’s just February twenty ni- oh. I see.
My guess is they forgot to advance the year on the stamper. 290224 does exist.
February 23, 2029 doesn’t exist?
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This comment section turned out almost as chaotic and confused as the old one, it’s actually quite impressive.
I mean, I’m sure just like “the other site” there are a bunch of folks just attempting to be funny. Some folks are really serious about date standards though, woof.
Just enjoy your timeless bagels and try not to go full Everything Bagel on us.
Infinity bagels.
Sucked. Intoooo. A baaaageeeel.
Sorry, but are you certain that number is both a date and the day it expires?
It could instead be a cash register code (perhaps a specific combination of ingredients), or the employee number for who made it (because Janet keeps fucking up, and Darma is sick of being blamed.)
Yes I am certain, I know how expiry dates are written on bread in Sweden, I lived there. This was also said on my last post, but I promise you, it’s just an error and should have said March 1st.
Or they got the year wrong unless you bought extremely expired bread or the much less plausible answer, this is an old picture.
Yes, that’s definitely not very plausible, that this is an old picture ;)
People put these days on with a handheld price gun. So it’s just someone who didn’t realize the month didn’t go that long.
Also why do these bagels last 2 more months? They usually last a few days.
They expired 10 months ago. 23, not 24
my sister got married on feb 29th. their ‘second’ anniversary is next year.
My uncle was born on Feb 29. We both had our 16th birthdays the same year.
23rd of February 2029?
February 23rd of 2029?
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They are the expiration date though. Why do you say that so confidently if you don’t know what you’re talking about?
These numbers are put on by grocery clerks with a price-gun. All they did was add on however many days the product is supposed to last after it got put on the shelf. So it’s really just some grocery worker not worrying about a date not existing. I woulda done the same thing if I was stocking these tbh.
I schedule all my meetings for March 31st.
What? This makes so little sense I don’t even know how to proceed. It’s an expiration date.
Source: I’m also Swedish like OP and frequently shop at ICA - the biggest supermarket chain we’ve got, who also have their own line of products which are baked/cooked/prepared and packaged centrally and sent out to ICA stores all over the country. Those bagels are one of those products.
The person marking them doesn’t get paid enough to care.
So it technically didn’t expire?
