There’s always gonna be these people knowingly breaking the law if they can easily afford the fines. Do you think she would keep driving without her seat belt and smoking wherever she pleases if she was fined say 10% of her yearly income every time she was caught?

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      Joke’s on them, in this place people are much more likely to get excited about the minutia of administrative sanctions than about rageclicking on the boobs lady. Gotta read the room.

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      The more I look at it the more obviously doctored these photos are. But why is it actually kind of convincing? Maybe I’ve gotten dumber.

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      Probably this. The third image even has some text whipped out and overwritten.

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    She obviously uses controversy to generate rage-based traffic. By sharing this shit literally ALL you are doing is giving her the attention she wants, because in return you get a little piece of that rage-based traffic and your pointless internet number goes up. Congrats, you’re part of the problem.

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    In at least one of the scandinavian countries, they actually do that. Your fine is expressed in a point system instead of a fixed amount and forwarded to the tax office, And then the tax office fines you based on your income. Which led to a 6-digit fine for a speeding driver some years ago.

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      It’s Finland you’re thinking of

      (which as an aside is not a part of Scandinavia, but is a part of the Nordics)

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      This is from memory but I think the 6-digit guy did some creative accounting too in order to pay less tax in his home country but that also inflated last years income which is what they used to fine him. He was very mad.

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        If it was her natural appearance, I would agree, but her appearance is clearly not natural. She made the choice to look like that, and we have every right to criticize such a poor decision.

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          we have every right to criticize such a poor decision.

          For whom is the decision poor?

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    Bit of a tangent, but what I find interesting about this lady, is that I don’t know if she’s 50 or 20. These pictures are photoshopped, but other pictures of her and her skin looks really rough.

    She’s clearly a heavy smoker, tans a lot, and has had plenty of plastic surgery, so I have no clue.

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          She learned that money means she doesn’t need to gvie a shit about anything at all so I guess she learned the only real life lesson… :/

          I imagine having gigantic breasts that are barely contained helps in some areas too…

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    Fines that are based on net-worth are even better. That way rich people with lots of assets (and little income) still get fined an appropriate amount.

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      That’s a lot easier to evade, though. How much gold does Ron have buried around town?

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      Honestly the only reason I’m against income tax is because we tried that in Vermont and because it also applied to poor people rich people moved and poor people had a harder time becoming middle class

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        That completely makes sense. Washington state has an interesting capital gains tax. You don’t get taxed at a state level unless you make more than 250,000 in a year. I think it’s a great way to only target the rich while allowing the poor and middle class to make some money untaxed at a state level.

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          That’s a pretty good idea but just as corporations have been screwing with Rossmans right to repair bills I find it unrealistic to assume the rich will do the same with income tax bills.

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      I guess you could find some edge case where someone had lots of assets that they could access for contract reasons so they basically housepoor.

      Or you know they could stop breaking the rules the rest of us have to follow.

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      I try to not judge people’s body modifications and respect their choices, but looking at her Botox job makes me extremely uncomfortable. Like an uncanny valley.

      If she’s happy with it though, what can I say. Not the worst part about her.

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      I’d love to know the percentage of the population who thinks this is hideous. Why women do this to their lips is beyond comprehension for me. Presumably it’s to make themselves more attractive but I’ve never heard anyone that thinks it is more attractive.

      Body dismorphia that compounds itself is sad to see in action.

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      Hey, Finland is just one of several coutries using dayfines:

      Germany, Denmark (partly), Finland, Macau, Sweden and Switzerland.

      The UK tried it, but it was unpopular, the US has experimented with it, but currently only Oklahoma has taken steps to implement it.

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          The court sentences a person to say 28 day fines based on the severity of the crime, the day fine’s value is determined by the income of the person sentenced.

          So a rich guy will pay far more for the same infraction than a poor guy.

          The system is meant to equalize the concequenses regardless of how much moneybyou have.

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          So, a day fine is when there’s a base minimum fine for things, but the actual fine beyond that is based on the income of the person who received it. You earn more beyond a certain amount, you pay more sort of thing.

          It actually makes fines useful as a deterrent for the rich instead of a price-of-entry, though I’m of the opinion that anyone who makes above a certain amount who would earn a fine should earn jail time instead.

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            I’m of the opinion that anyone who makes above a certain amount who would earn a fine should earn jail time instead.

            That goes against the spirit of democracy and laws. Why should someone rich go to jail for speeding alone on the highway while a middle class parent could do the exact same infraction with their kids in the car and just pay a ticket?

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          Now, others have already explained that is a fine based on a days’ earnings (usually estimated from annual income). I’d like to add that implementing this for companies is why EU legislation like the GDPR is so fearsome.

          If a company violates the GDPR badly enough¹ they can be fined up to 4% of their annual revenue or 20 million euros, whichever is higher. No matter what size that company is, that kind of fine hurts enough to be a deterrent. And suddenly everyone is very interested in following the law, even the guys with bigger budgets than some countries.


          ¹ Less egregious violations have halved max fines. Still enough to be really painful.

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        There are more than that.

        Source: we use them and we’re not on that list. Kinda weird that Macau snuck in there before us, honestly. Maybe because here there are hard amount caps and in practice the system is used more as a tool to update fine amounts at intervals than as a hard math way to relate to income? I don’t know if that ends up being the case in other places applying the system.

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            I don’t typically broadcast that. Not that you couldn’t put it together if you stalked me for a while. But also, maybe don’t do that if I don’t broadcast it.