• Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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    Hey non-white people: do you actually not enjoy pumpkin spice? I feel like this whole thing is overblown.

    Edit: I love that this conversation is still going, no answers have been found, but also no insults have been thrown.

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      I wouldn’t even know where to get something like this. I only heard about this pumpkin spice thing on the internet

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      I’m Asian. Hate Pumpkin Spice. It’s not even pumpkin. It’s nutmeg, allspice, and cloves.

      It smells nice but it tastes like dirt.

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        It’s the spices frequently used to flavor pumpkin pie. The primary spice should be cinnamon.

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          TIL that they have no fucking idea about how to season pumpkin in the US.

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                  For pumpkin pie, I usually not use spice. Sometimes a hint cinnamon or ginger. But no mix.
                  But for a soup or a stew, I’ll probably be using a mix of cumin and ginger or simply the seasonings I usually have in the dish whether it has pumpkin or not. For roasted pumpkin, definitely cumin.

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                    Well, yeah those are the spices that create “pumpkin spice”

                    I never use a mix either, but pumpkin spice usually contains,

                    Cinnamon, ginger, cloves, and/or nutmeg. One recipe I found called for mace, but I skipped it because the store didn’t have any.

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        White guy here. I also avoid it.

        Though I don’t like sweets in general. So maybe I’m not a good example.

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            I’m in the US where most people mainly associate pumpkin with pumpkin pie. This includes the pumpkin spice which is the topic of this thread, along with plenty of cinnamon and sugar, and is usually served with whipped cream.

            I am of course aware there are many other ways to prepare or eat pumpkin, but that is my main association with this food.

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              In France, pumpkin is savory first. Even if it is not uncommon to have them in tarts or flans.

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        Huh. I agree about the debate being stupid, but judging by the responses to my (obviously flawed) study here on Lemmy it seems like there may be something to this stereotype.

        I love pumpkin pie, but anything else pumpkin spice I’m pretty meh about. It’s probably the lack of actual pumpkin.

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          I think that the whole thing about the pumpkin spice phenomenon is that it’s intrinsically tied to autumn in the US. Pumpkin pie, Halloween with pumpkins, apples, bonfires, etc. it’s all part of the season, and pumpkin spice flavoring is just one of the ways that the season in general can be experienced.

          Socially, it seems like white women, more than most other demographics in the States, are especially enthusiastic about celebrating and experiencing the various seasons (and is that really such a bad thing?), and since the autumn season has so many specific items and trends that go along with it that appeal to this demographic (picture the stereotypical white girl in the fall: PSL, fall style, at the farmers market or apple picking, family photos, etc.), it’s just the most distilled example that gets tied to a type of person.

          Other people get hyped for fall too…lots of rural American men are excited to go hunting in the fall…but camo and blaze orange with an old Stanley thermos of cheap coffee in an old truck at 4am isn’t quite as marketable as the PSL.

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            Yeah I hear ya. I don’t wanna pooh pooh on people enjoying fall, but it seems like it’s more like a marketing thing that’s been confused with a cultural thing if that makes senses…

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      I do. I think it’s quite nice and I have them somewhat regularly. They’re not overpriced where I live, they’re about the same price of a normal latte at any other cafe. So technically not overpriced, but still expensive.

      Edit: my ex-partner introduced me to it and she was a typical white woman from southern US. So there’s that.

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      Is this some usa thing? I think I qualify as white and I don’t even know wtf this is