Is it possible you’re injecting some of your own negativity? You initially misinterpreted something as challenging and then feel the need to continue to demand a certain implication in a different comment.
I simply explained why I made the comment I made and you’re taking the opportunity to be upset by both while even already acknowledging a mistake, completely oblivious to your own bias.
Maybe take a breather and get off the internet for a while? You don’t seem to be handling it very well.
An open air prison that is 40% children who literally have never seen an election and have been collectively punished for actions taken by adults before the children were even born.
They have never known a world where you could build a home, work a job, and eat fresh fruit. They have never known human rights, and they have never had any consent in their government.
Palestine is a concentration camp of orphan children and a few random adults. Most of the people there have never known anything other than brutality and privation, and they are told they deserve it because of the sins of fathers long since dead.
Sins of fathers long since dead? Bud, what’s happening right now is because of sins and atrocities from this week,
Hamas hides among these civilians as they fight a guerilla war. Do they bear no responsibility for endangering said children?
What about the parents who choose to stay in such a place and raise children there, where the genocidal elected government is launching attacks against civilians in a much stronger nation they can’t hope to defeat? The inevitable retaliation shouldn’t come as a surprise to them at this point.
It’s terrible that innocent people get hurt in war, but that doesn’t imply that retaliation isn’t appropriate. Not retaliating has its own risks, that of incentivizing further attacks and bolstering enemy morale.
Gaza isn’t a concentration camp because they can leave. Although it is temporarily closed, the door to Egypt has been wide open for some time for those who want out. When your government’s stated goals include genocide and refusing to negotiate in favor of jihad against an enemy they cannot reasonably defeat, perhaps it’s time to GTFO.
The only viable victory condition for Palestine is to negotiate a peace with terms they won’t like, otherwise they will keep fighting an unwinnable guerilla terrorist war at great cost to themselves, as their lands ebb away one settlement at a time.
That’s how the world works and always has worked, children inherit their situation from their parents. Let’s not pretend it doesn’t. I need not like it to acknowledge it.
It sounds like your condoning punishing children for the actions of their parents.
The actions of Hamas are unconscionable and evil, but if you claim Israel is justified in punishing a million children for an election that took place before they were born then it sounds like you are accidentally justifying the actions of Hamas too.
It sounds like you’re justifying genocide as a response to genocide.
It sounds like your condoning punishing children for the actions of their parents.
No, I’m saying terrorists can’t operate with impunity because they hide behind children. Punishing children is not the point of military retaliation against Hamas, and the fact that children exist in Gaza does not justify letting systemic murder of civilians go unpunished.
Sometimes minimizing deaths and maintaining public safety means deterring violence with violence, even if collateral damage may occur.
Just so you’re aware, you’re saying that Isreal is allowed to target children because hamas targeted children. Did you trace it back to the very first child death or did you start your tally this week?
To reward you with the same treatment and reduce your opinion to an absurdity, are you saying an army with kids strapped to their chests would be invincible and allowed to kill whoever they choose with no consequence?
There is absolutely a difference between targeting civilians on purpose, and not being able to avoid some civilian casualties while targeting an army/militia that is purposefully using their proximity to civilians as a shield.
I’ve learnt that it’s pointless trying to gently and politely disabuse idiots of their entrenched views. Instead it’s only ever worth highlighting their bigotry for passersby so they don’t get duped.
You telling me your government has never done a morally reprehensible thing you didn’t support? Or are you divinely insulated from the ‘justice’ of being bombed and deprived of basic human rights?
How can you say that when there’s clear video evidence of many thousands of Palestinians cheering the carnage?
Many Palestinians are absolutely complicit in the terrorism, but that doesn’t mean all are bad.
As long as Hamas has the support of the people, and I’ve yet to see a single uprising or attempt, then it’s nearly impossible to separate civilians from terrorists.
Israelis have been in the streets for months protesting their government, it’s very evident many Israelis don’t support Netanyahu, you cannot say the same about Palestinians though.
If only Hamas had used the wealth they’ve been provided to develop the territory rather than turn it into a terrorist training camp.
Their leaders are sitting on billions in Qatar, they receive enormous aid from around the globe and they use it for terrorism.
The wall reduced terrorist attacks by something like 95%.
Hamas is the reason Gazans live like they do. Egypt cut off access for the same reasons as Israel. Are you taking issue with their not providing water and fuel?
I’m not defending Hamas. Hamas is shit. But Hamas exists because of Israel. Israel took Palestine’s land had continued to encroach on it ever since with illegal settlements
Who do you expect to rise up in Palestine when half of the population is kids?
Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years. Their returning to THEIR ancestral homelands isn’t stealing the land. I agree the settlements are inciting, the Palestinians have turned down a dozen peace deals that would have stopped them because they insist all Jews must die.
If Palestinians won’t rise up against Hamas, Israel will do it for them. They sure have no problem finding people to take up arms against IDF soldiers.
Ah yes, how could I forget. It’s just like how every Muslim in the world was celebrating 9/11. I remember how that was totally happening and not a ridiculous blanket statement
Palestine (as in the people of Palestine) had and still has the moral high ground - Hamas never did. They’ve always been religious terrorists.
Well they are currently the government of Gaza so it’s a little more than rag tag terrorists
My point still stands?
Yes? I never said it didn’t
It’s possible that people can supply context to modify without outright rejecting a position
Why downvote me for that? Your phrasing came off as challenging.
You misinterpreted it as being challenging, which is your own problem.
pimento grove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYqR7PbfEo
Ok then, so I misinterpreted it. How about confirming without the snark?
Wow thank you so much for the condescension. I was not aware that people can add context. I wouldn’t have known without this arrogant sentence
You don’t even realize that I’m not the same user, clearly you aren’t reading calmly and attentively.
I had like 8 replies in my inbox, please forgive me for not realizing it was a completely different person jumping to the defense of someone
Is it possible you’re injecting some of your own negativity? You initially misinterpreted something as challenging and then feel the need to continue to demand a certain implication in a different comment.
I simply explained why I made the comment I made and you’re taking the opportunity to be upset by both while even already acknowledging a mistake, completely oblivious to your own bias.
Maybe take a breather and get off the internet for a while? You don’t seem to be handling it very well.
I now firmly believe that you meant no condescension in your snarky reply, thank you.
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The people of Palestine (in Gaza) elected Hamas and Hamas hasn’t held another election since.
An open air prison that is 40% children who literally have never seen an election and have been collectively punished for actions taken by adults before the children were even born.
They have never known a world where you could build a home, work a job, and eat fresh fruit. They have never known human rights, and they have never had any consent in their government.
Palestine is a concentration camp of orphan children and a few random adults. Most of the people there have never known anything other than brutality and privation, and they are told they deserve it because of the sins of fathers long since dead.
Sins of fathers long since dead? Bud, what’s happening right now is because of sins and atrocities from this week,
Hamas hides among these civilians as they fight a guerilla war. Do they bear no responsibility for endangering said children?
What about the parents who choose to stay in such a place and raise children there, where the genocidal elected government is launching attacks against civilians in a much stronger nation they can’t hope to defeat? The inevitable retaliation shouldn’t come as a surprise to them at this point.
It’s terrible that innocent people get hurt in war, but that doesn’t imply that retaliation isn’t appropriate. Not retaliating has its own risks, that of incentivizing further attacks and bolstering enemy morale.
Gaza isn’t a concentration camp because they can leave. Although it is temporarily closed, the door to Egypt has been wide open for some time for those who want out. When your government’s stated goals include genocide and refusing to negotiate in favor of jihad against an enemy they cannot reasonably defeat, perhaps it’s time to GTFO.
The only viable victory condition for Palestine is to negotiate a peace with terms they won’t like, otherwise they will keep fighting an unwinnable guerilla terrorist war at great cost to themselves, as their lands ebb away one settlement at a time.
So the children who are locked in prisons they can’t leave are forced the bear the weight of the actions of others?
Very logical conclusions you have
That’s how the world works and always has worked, children inherit their situation from their parents. Let’s not pretend it doesn’t. I need not like it to acknowledge it.
It sounds like your condoning punishing children for the actions of their parents.
The actions of Hamas are unconscionable and evil, but if you claim Israel is justified in punishing a million children for an election that took place before they were born then it sounds like you are accidentally justifying the actions of Hamas too.
It sounds like you’re justifying genocide as a response to genocide.
No, I’m saying terrorists can’t operate with impunity because they hide behind children. Punishing children is not the point of military retaliation against Hamas, and the fact that children exist in Gaza does not justify letting systemic murder of civilians go unpunished.
Sometimes minimizing deaths and maintaining public safety means deterring violence with violence, even if collateral damage may occur.
Just so you’re aware, you’re saying that Isreal is allowed to target children because hamas targeted children. Did you trace it back to the very first child death or did you start your tally this week?
So less than 50% of Palestinians elected a party, and they haven’t had another election in almost 20 years.
I guess they deserve to be shelled and blockaded. /s
And more than 50% of them are younger than 20.
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To reward you with the same treatment and reduce your opinion to an absurdity, are you saying an army with kids strapped to their chests would be invincible and allowed to kill whoever they choose with no consequence?
There is absolutely a difference between targeting civilians on purpose, and not being able to avoid some civilian casualties while targeting an army/militia that is purposefully using their proximity to civilians as a shield.
Congratulations, you took my response and went so reductionist with it that it no longer resembles anything I wrote.
There’s a difference between collateral damage and intentionally targeting civilians. If you can’t see that your bias is showing.
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I’ve learnt that it’s pointless trying to gently and politely disabuse idiots of their entrenched views. Instead it’s only ever worth highlighting their bigotry for passersby so they don’t get duped.
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You telling me your government has never done a morally reprehensible thing you didn’t support? Or are you divinely insulated from the ‘justice’ of being bombed and deprived of basic human rights?
You’re despicable.
“Elected”, lol
If you’re suggesting it was rigged, I’d like to see a source for that.
Take a look at how hamas handled losing the presidential election.
Source?
The people of the United States elected Donald Trump and his politics don’t represent me
And yet we all bear the consequences of his actions as president. (Unlike Hamas, Trump didn’t even get the most votes.)
Just like the Palestinians
Religious fundamentalism is a cancer
Indeed. Absurd premises lead to absurd conclusions.
How can you say that when there’s clear video evidence of many thousands of Palestinians cheering the carnage?
Many Palestinians are absolutely complicit in the terrorism, but that doesn’t mean all are bad.
As long as Hamas has the support of the people, and I’ve yet to see a single uprising or attempt, then it’s nearly impossible to separate civilians from terrorists.
Israelis have been in the streets for months protesting their government, it’s very evident many Israelis don’t support Netanyahu, you cannot say the same about Palestinians though.
Palestine is a prison camp
If only Hamas had used the wealth they’ve been provided to develop the territory rather than turn it into a terrorist training camp.
Their leaders are sitting on billions in Qatar, they receive enormous aid from around the globe and they use it for terrorism.
The wall reduced terrorist attacks by something like 95%.
Hamas is the reason Gazans live like they do. Egypt cut off access for the same reasons as Israel. Are you taking issue with their not providing water and fuel?
I’m not defending Hamas. Hamas is shit. But Hamas exists because of Israel. Israel took Palestine’s land had continued to encroach on it ever since with illegal settlements
Who do you expect to rise up in Palestine when half of the population is kids?
Israel took Palestines land?
Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years. Their returning to THEIR ancestral homelands isn’t stealing the land. I agree the settlements are inciting, the Palestinians have turned down a dozen peace deals that would have stopped them because they insist all Jews must die.
If Palestinians won’t rise up against Hamas, Israel will do it for them. They sure have no problem finding people to take up arms against IDF soldiers.
Those celebrating the murder of innocent people have the moral high ground? To be a fool. Palestinians world wide are out there cheering.
Ah yes, how could I forget. It’s just like how every Muslim in the world was celebrating 9/11. I remember how that was totally happening and not a ridiculous blanket statement
That’s coming from someone who made a blanket statement themselves? Hypocrisy is not a good argument tool.
I was pretty clear in my distinction between normal Palestinians and Hamas.
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Whoa dude. No need to call someone disabled, that’s messed up. There are tons of other insults or words you could use.
Reading comprehension isn’t your thing I guess.