It’s blatant extortion now.

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    Trump needs to be removed for this and it’s not an exaggeration to say there are at least a dozen other unconstitutional things he’s done that he should be removed for as well. But the GOP-held congress doesn’t care about the constitution either so this is only going to continue to get worse.

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    And I will not relent upon my statements of fact that Trump is an asshole, rapist, pedophile, fascist, lying, narcissistic cuck until he is impeached or dies. See how likely it is for me to stop saying these things?

    Edit: forgot rapist, so hard to remember everything he’s so shitty

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    In case people don’t realize. Canada shares an Arctic border with Russia and Russia is trying to take Canadian land and regularly crosses into our waters to steal resources. It is of benefit to Putin for Canada to be weak and distracted by Trump, since Trump works for Putin, it’s very clear why he’s doing this

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    Other than the consequences that would happen as a result, it’d be hilarious if Canada ended up doing a, I think we call them, “preemptive targeted use of force against specific individuals determined to pose an active threat to national security”.

    How fucked is it if another country, historically our closest ally, assassinated our president so many of us would just be like “yeah, makes sense”.

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    The US’ most important good is intellectual property. They rely on other countries to protect their IP. If you no longer rely on them for trade because theyre tariffing the shit out of your country, you don’t need to appease them anymore by protecting their IP.

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    Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

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      Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don’t let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.

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      I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.

      Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.

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      Have these random programs actually helped Americans?

      To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?

      In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?

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    According to the US Supreme Court, a US president cannot be prosecuted for crimes (if they’re related to their official duties, but whatever goes, I guess). This means that Canada is faced with the fact that they’re being attacked by a foreign power with a ruler not beholden to the rule of law. If they give in, they’re going to be conquered by a king who is not bound by a national constitution, legislative body, nor courts. This is an existential threat to their freedom as individuals with rights.

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      If they give in

      lol, no. The US are about to rediscover why Canadians were so feared in the world wars. Canada literally exists because we didn’t want to be part of the US. If you want Washington burned down a second time, keep at it.

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      Well, that and also the fact that Canadians currently see the US as a severely indebted dumpster fire where the system is specifically designed to exploit and oppress its citizens for the profit of the few. A police state where cops can assault, rob, unlawfully imprison and murder anyone without repercussion, where your insurance company will deny you life saving treatments to make more money despite charging you twice what Canadians pay for their own health insurance through their slightly higher taxes, where the cost of education is absurdly prohibitive and social mobility is nonexistent, where it is legal to pay someone a salary that is not even enough to keep them lodged and fed while working over 50 hours a week on several jobs, where corporations can sell you food containing ingredients that are known to be harmful to your health, where religious zealots with belief systems that belong to the dark ages wield significant political power, where citizens are locked up for simple violations while rich people get away with murder, where entertainment TV shows can spew out pure disinformation while calling themselves “FOX News” where Corporations are being given human rights that take priority over real humans and their political donations are considered “free speech”, where any moron can buy a gun without even having a single clue on how to use it safely and where the violent crime rate is through the roof, all that while chanting about being the greatest country on Earth.

      And that was before we even take Trump into consideration. But hey, he said we could keep our anthem because he likes it and that we’d pay lower taxes. So I guess that makes it worth it now?

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      if canada is threatened they can just cut out all traffic to ALASKA, starve the state.

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    If he invades Canada we’ll make Vietnam look like a cakewalk.

    We look like you. We speak your language. We consume your media. You’re going to fight an enemy who looks, acts, and is just as technologically advanced as you. Fighting insurgents who had nothing in common with you was already challenging enough, now imagine not knowing who is who

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    I hope that people in the Pentagon remember that following illegal orders is a crime, too, and you cannot be forced to do so. Something established in Nürnberg when they took care of the Nazis.

    An order to attack Canada, Mexico, Greenland, or Panama would basically be such an illegal order.

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      This is not the first time the US has made up bullshit in order to attack a country: WMDs in Iraq, communism in Vietnam, Russia said there were nazis in Ukraine to justify that war. The military only needs a lie and then it’s not illegal anymore. The lies are already circulating. “canada is communist” “canada hurts the US”

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        You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door. I really don’t think even the Republican propaganda machine could make that happen.

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          Then you will never cease to be amazed by the depths of Trump fanaticism, because they absolutely would fall in line. It’s not the Republican machine, merely a vestigial organ to the Trump cult that has taken over its host.

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          You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door. I really don’t think even the Republican propaganda machine could make that happen.

          There are plenty of infinitely dumb trumpers who will blindly follow whatever he says, though. I’d bet a majority of the people in the military support him.

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            You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door.

            Yet Trump was able to get his followers to enthuaiastically attack an American institution of government…

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              That’s comparatively very easy. Americans instinctively mistrust all governments, and especially their own. America was founded on hatred and mistrust of government, and those roots run deep. But we have no actual beef with Canada and the Canadian people. And sure, the Republican propaganda machine can try to invent one, but I just don’t think it will stick. It’s easy to target the scary poor brown foreigners coming in from the southern border, but people just won’t believe you when you try to demonize Canadians, because they’re basically the same as us culturally.

              Most people aren’t freaking out right now because they don’t take Trump literally. You’d think that they would have learned better by now, but one of Trump’s legitimate talents is that he has an almost supernatural ability to get people to selectively believe what he says: they believe the things they like and think he’s just bullshitting about everything else. If something actually happens with Canada, people will wake up fast.

              Unfortunately, I think a Panama invasion is more likely, and I actually doubt that most Americans will be so upset in that situation.

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          The Republican propaganda machine has already convinced a bunch of people who grew up during the cold war that Russia is now the good guys. It’ll take some time, but I don’t doubt they could do it.

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      Lol the Pentagon isn’t afraid to fake evidence to support an invasion. Remember the aluminium tubes? Remember yellow cake uranium? I remember.

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      When have illegal wars ever stopped the Americans?

      I’m sorry but let’s not forget that Iraq was a thing.

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      I’m not sure it’s technically illegal, and I’m very doubtful that the current judiciary would find it so. But it is unconscionable. And insane.

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        It’s not technical illegal at all. Nothing he does is. The Supreme Court made him king.

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        If troops do illegal shit, the U.S. judicial system is one of several places they could possibly be held accountable.

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      … And you think the trump government cares about some German town (as trump would explain that)?

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      He has the memory of a cod and the backbone of a slug, this is all bluster and he’ll cave the moment anyone he knows tells him otherwise.

      Strongman my ass

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    I know trying to make sense of the stupidity that is Trump’s “plan” for America is a lost cause. But why do they speak like turning Canada into a singular state makes any god damn sense??

    Also, is war inevitable? I honestly don’t know. Shit is not looking good. If war breaks out, I would find a way to flee and volunteer to fight on the opposing side. No way am I supporting my country on the wrong side of history.

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      The US could attack Canada and they could take our cities in Southern Ontario easily, however, that would instantly deputize everyone else and there would be tens of millions of insurgents fighting asymmetrical warfare forever more. We would also destroy all the assets the US sought to take from us cause Canadians are vindictive AF. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours neither can US invaders.

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      today seems like a good day to remember David Fagen, an American soldier who defected to fight for the Philippines against the American invasion and is remembered as a hero for it in the modern era

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      Yeah, I definitely don’t have loyalty to fascism. Being autistic and leftist, they will want me dead. Here’s hoping that I can help in some useful way.

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      This is what I hope – that there are enough actual patriots, people who believe in the Rule of Law and the principles our Republic was built on, and resist. That military commands will rebel, that people will be gathering OSInt for Canada, and saboteurs and vandals and lone wolves start making things miserable for the administration and anyone who supports them.

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      I think war against Panama is far more likely. The idea of annexing Canada is wildly unpopular among both Democrats and Republicans. The best you could get away with is an EU type economic union. We already have some in the military who have said they won’t invade our allies.

      A full on war against Canada is unlikely. Maybe a single battle?

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-worry-trump-too-closely-aligned-with-russia-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-03-13/

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      War? Remember that we’re talking about nuclear war. That is possible of course, but many people with brains would try to stop Trump from starting it. Would they succeed? Who knows.

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      No. War isn’t inevitable. People have nukes and definitely will use them if needed. In other words, a cold war might occur, but maybe not regular war at least not in North America.

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        Trump can be talked down by people that understand reality, but not always. Putin, a much more intelligent leader, thought his invasion of Ukraine would be over in a week and look how that worked out for Russians.

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      I honestly think the “better” thing to do is stay inside and try to sabotage the aggressors. This would obviously require a great deal of cunning and bravery.

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        If you want to really sabotage the war effort, use the war to push for state secession from the union, particularly if you’re in a blue state. Most of the blue states are economic engines that keep the rest of the machine ticking. If they leave, or try to, that’ll be a huge kick in the nuts to any war effort.

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          Honest endgame here.

          And if the coastal states are doing it you might even get a left-right alliance in Texas to support secession.

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      A land war at the border would give him justification to deploy military domestically for “defense”.