Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.
I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.
I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.
The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.
I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.
In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.
Oh trump is going to help flatten Gaza with such a raging boner. Everyone that voted “uncommitted” has the blood on their hands they blamed others. Fucking repugnant
I too am over all the genocide Joe dipshits on forums. Congrats you handed the country to a dictator.
I sincerely hope you get the policy on Palestine that you voted for!
Everyone that voted “uncommitted” has the blood on their hands
Once again, the peaceful protesters are responsible for the state violence inflicted upon them. Its just like when the BLM protesters cost Hillary the election. Or when the LGBTQ community and the anti-war movement handed Bush a second term.
Just stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting or you will be hurt much worse! And then you will have only yourself to blame!
Theres a little thing called picking your battles
You voted for trump. You’ll get what you deserve.
Nope. Try blaming the right people for a change.
Trump literally said Israel should finish the job. You’re getting both genocides and probably a few on top!
Ukrainians in Ukraine too. And immigrants in US. Interesting times.
A genocide of brown people too. And not just the ones in the U.S. illegally. Anyone who is brown and happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time either without ID or with an ID that a cop thinks is fake or stolen is going to be sent to a camp. That’s not even a “potential” thing. Trump has promised to deport millions of people. There is no way they can do that without accidentally deporting plenty of citizens and putting them in concentration camps first while they work out extradition deals.
All of these so called anti fascists sure do seem excited about a fascist being elected
None that I can see, but you keep beating that strawman.
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Yeah where’s all the fucking dipshits that were on here before yelling nonstop about Kamala not getting their vote because of the genocide in Gaza, hmm? I guess Russia doesn’t need to employ them anymore.
They’re still here, for some reason. Maybe everyone thought the election would take a few days to call and so they paid for a few more days of disinformation?
More like canceled their ChatGPT subscription
The number of people who essentially told me that my kid’s life didn’t matter because of Gaza before this election was just disgusting.
And they’re going to stand there as queer people are marched into conversion camps and say it was your fault.
I will put money on the fact no one gets marched into queer camps enmass and forcefully in America
What about trans people getting marched one by one into prisons with the wrong gender because they got reported for pissing in a public toilet?
Because it’s already the law to do that in some states. I can tell you more about what happens to trans people in prison if you don’t already know, but suffice to say it’s bad.
Believe it or not, you being willing to gamble on a child’s life is not an especially good look for you.
I mean, we’ve already had conversion therapy camps that families throw their queer or questioning kids into. Who’s to day that’s not a solution dreamed up here: Project 2025
Forgot this part: LGBTQ+ and what they are already doing now: mediamatters
How about we stop the blame game and stay focused on fighting for both (and to be honest many more) causes?
There was always going to be a fight, it was only a matter of how we were going to fight.
stay focused on fighting for both
We’re going to see both ends played against the middle. I fully expect to see wave after wave of (often AI generated) images and testimonials, depicting Arab men and Trans Women fighting each other tooth-and-claw, while I’m told I need to apologize for the savagery of these two groups.
There was always going to be a fight, it was only a matter of how we were going to fight.
The conflict lines are already shaping up. Palestinian Rights Activists robbed Trans people of their freedom and dignity. Trans Activists sacrificed POC on the alter of convenience. The only way forward is to abandon both causes and accept a compromised second class citizenship mediated by a bunch of straight white wealthy bureaucrats. Otherwise, we’ll get the business end of the police baton while the media reports us all as violent dissidents and human shields.
All three branches of the federal government is under MAGA control. There is no fighting back.
How about both. 2 in 1 combo
Its always amazing to me.the lengths someone will go to to avoid blaming their party or candidate for a loss. The blame is not even directed to the millions of people who actively voted for the fascist, but to the political minority with the least impact on the result.
Lets face facts. The DNCs strategy to move to the right and court the mythical moderate Republican failed again. Their strategy to fund extremist Republican candidates in local races was another bet on the goodwill of the GOP voters and look they lost the Senate. They failed you.
They failed the country. They had a huge hand in creating the trump mess for their own assumed gain and yet, none of the average libs will acknowledge it. They took the votes of independents and leftists for granted and decided Liz Cheney and AIPAC would bring them victory and they failed again. Face it.
Hear hear.
Trump won against Harris by a margin multiple times the size of all the third party votes combined. Blaming Stein or Gaza protestors for the loss is false. Heck, this shows that Harris lost Michigan by far more than the total number of Arab-American and Muslim voters in the state. But we get blamed anyway, it’s an American tradition by this point for both parties to hate us.
I indeed blame voters. It’s your damn civic duty
I don’t see why it’s exclusive though.
First and foremost, Republican voters are to blame.
Voters who didn’t make the choice of voting for the milquetoast liberal instead of the overt fascist are to blame.
People who argued for the both sides are the same rhetoric ad nauseam are to blame. I wholeheartedly agree that both sides suck, but let’s not be delusional there’s obviously one that’s worst.
The Democratic party which propped up the most extreme fascists while courting anything supposedly both undecided and to their right instead of all the leftist voters are to blame.
Even if it’s conceptually easier to handle, in such a shitty situation there’s usually a lot of blame to go around.
Agreed, it’s their civic duty, but if 2/3rds of the people think the electoral college needs to go,it’s the civic duty of the politicians to represent that. The US democracy is just so terrible that just blaming the voters is the easy way out. It’s the undemocratic system which year over year hasn’t changed even though the consequences were predicted year over year. This is not hindsight!
Big principal Skinner energy
Maybe you can realize that comparing genocides doesn’t really help you.
“I don’t care about that genocide because it is happening thousands of miles away and doesn’t affect me even though it’s my money funding it, but I do care about this genocide that’s not yet happened but might happen to me”
If you can excuse one genocide then you can excuse them all. It doesn’t suddenly matter because it’s your life at stake.
the neat part is now we get both genocides.
He had one genocide, yes. But what about the second (and third) genocide?
And fourth?
Life could be an all you can eat buffet, except every course is genocide.
I feel really sad for Americans right now, especially anyone who needs/might need any procedure that could be construed as “abortion” (like the many reports of women who died because hospitals wouldn’t take on the liability of terminating a clearly unviable fetus), and those in the LGBTQIA+ communities.
I feel the worst for those groups, though all of you have my sympathies.
As you might infer, I am not an American, and I am unable to vote in US elections. I am Canadian, and while I can’t speak for all Canadians to invite you to come join us, I will say that, abortion is legal here. Every major city has a pride event every year. There’s always protests to both, as you would expect (people exercising their rights to free speech), but there’s no criminality in being LGBTQIA+ nor in getting an abortion.
Personally, anyone who wants to abandon this fight and flee to the north, I don’t blame you, and if we ever meet, you will be accepted by me and the people I know for who you are.
Be safe, take care of yourself.
Just avoid the province of Alberta at all costs. Alberta is currently making access to transgender healthcare difficult, starting with a legislation to ban minors under-16 from accessing lifesaving medical care
I did not know this. Thank you.
Related: Alberta, get your shit together.
I can’t even enter Canada because I got a DUI 21 years ago. Thanks for the kind words though.
I hate that a single DUI can disqualify someone from entering Canada. I understand why the rule is there, and I strongly disagree with the way it is applied to DUIs.
The way I understand it is that you cannot enter Canada if you have a specific severity of criminal conviction on your record, which a DUI barely makes the cut for. The underlying rule is good, we don’t want a bunch of theives, muggers, and killers to be given a free pass into Canada, but DUI? Especially if it was once, a long time ago? C’mon.
I hope the pardon thing pans out for you, friend. Stay safe.
FYI, you can apply for a pardon in immigration court. If you’ve had a clean record since it is highly n likely to be successful.
How accepting of immigrants is Canada? Last time I looked I got really discouraged, because it doesn’t seem like they’ll let someone like me* actually immigrate.
- (I’m not a doctor or engineer, or rich or anything. I’ve just worked in customer service my whole life).
It’s a point system, and yeah without an advanced degree it’s not easy. You can see here how you would score: https://www.canadavisa.com/comprehensive-ranking-score-calculator.html
What I was talking about with the person above was simply for entry, like as a tourist or via NAFTA business entry.
Yeah, looks like I have less than 300 of the maximum 1200 points. So that’s probably not going to happen unless Canada starts opening up to refugees from the US.
Thank you, I will look into that.
It’s not easy, but if you’re good at paperwork and don’t mind taking the time it’s absolutely doable. Here’s some more details on how to go about the Criminal Rehabilitation process:
https://www.zuanichlaw.com/how-do-i-apply-for-criminal-rehabilitation-to-enter-canada
I hate to downvote a Star Trek meme, but that top half is inaccurate. America voted for a genocide of American LGBTQ and Gaza. Both.
We “avoided” precisely fuck-all and everyone who claimed otherwise is a blatant goddamn liar.
It’s directed at people who absolutely cannot vote for Harris due to her stance on Gaza. Instead, they enabled a war on their LGBTQ neighbors.
But that’s my point, though: they didn’t do that “instead.” They did that in addition to!
Fucking lying, bloodthirsty, fascist clowns, all of them.
Now that the election is over, we can admit it: both sides were bad. Sure Trump is worse, but Harris can be blamed too
There’s plenty of anger and blame for everyone today. Trump and his voters are the most at fault. Harris listened to the lobbyists instead of polls about Palestine. Democrats should never have nominated Biden, and shouldn’t have gaslit everyone about the economy being fine. Americans are far right.
And last of all, I’ve never punched a Nazi or joined a union myself.
And last of all, I’ve never punched a Nazi or joined a union myself.
Not yet.
You’re not wrong. Yeah, I could have done better, but I’m in a self induced drunken rage.
Understandable. I feel sorry for you guys.
I told this to one of the tankies over in leftymemes, got called a genocide apologist and banned. Funny thing is, one of their mods is trans. Not American, though, so it doesn’t matter to her I guess. And let me tell you, that mod in particular, she was working hard to convince people not to vote for Harris. Didn’t have much to say about Trump, though… pretty interesting.
Asking a tankie what the best path forward is for the US is like a black man asking a Klansman for career advice. They want to see us burn, not be better.
Asking a capitalist what the best path forward is for the US is like a black man asking a Klansman for career advice. They want to see us destitute, not be better.
I really don’t get that.
US is one of the world’s hegemons. They have disproportionate control overthe global energy markets, financial sector, and so much more.
Pretty much wherever you are you will be impacted by US politics.
And it sucks because the US is increasingly becoming a shit hole country.
At least they will get what they deserve. To bad about everyone else.
In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.
Doesn’t matter. They get to LARP with their purity politics. The lives of American minorities don’t matter to them.
Dumb fucking children
I’ve taken to calling them out as exactly what they are: virtue signallers. Like you said, they’re just larping about caring about these people, and boy do they get salty when they have to deny it.
The democrats do not care about American minorities
