Calls grow in Germany to ban far-right AfD – DW – 10/01/2024
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The Alternative for Germany (AfD) has gained ground in three recent state elections, caused an uproar in the Thuringian parliament and triggering another debate on whether to ban the party outright.

The Alternative for Germany (AfD) has gained ground in three recent state elections, caused an uproar in the Thuringian parliament and triggering another debate on whether to ban the party outright.

  • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.orgEnglish
    3·
    12 hours ago

    Can you ban a party that’s got a plurality of seats in the Parliament? Or will they be the ones banning you?

    Of course. And it’s nonsensical to claim we cannot ban them, while worrying they could ban us. We can and we should, based on what you yourself wrote:

    If you pass a law but never enforce it, the law does nothing.

    We have laws against undemocratic parties, so we should enforce them.

    I mean, by all means, feel free to give it a shot. But it seems like you’re asking an elected government to do a thing it isn’t designed to do.

    But it is designed to do exactly that. That’s like a core mechanism of our democracy.

    The only way to argue we shouldn’t ban the AFD is if you claim that they somehow should be exempt from our mechanisms against fascism. They were enforced before, they will be enforced again. And the AFD fits the bill in every way.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      12 hours ago

      And it’s nonsensical to claim we cannot ban them

      Who is going to pull the trigger? Point to the opposition leader willing and able to try and dismantle a party with this many active supporters.

      We have laws against undemocratic parties

      Which are used to target unpopular fringe groups not regional majorities. The UK would have more luck banning the SNP.

      That’s like a core mechanism of our democracy.

      The core mechanism of democracy is to abolish political organizations wholesale?

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        10 hours ago

        Which are used to target unpopular fringe groups not regional majorities.

        Oh, okay, they’re too popular to do anything about. Phew. For a moment there I thought there might have been a consistent opposition to fascism.

      • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.orgEnglish
        41·
        11 hours ago

        Who is going to pull the trigger? Point to the opposition leader willing and able to try and dismantle a party with this many active supporters.

        Read the article. It’s already happening.

        Which are used to target unpopular fringe groups not regional majorities.

        You don’t seem to know a lot about the German constitution. The opposite is true. Unppular fringe groups are not banned because they are not actually a danger to democracy, as long as government positions are not in reach for them. That’s exactly how the german federal constitutional court has argued in the past. Successful bans ever only targeted actually successful parties.

        The core mechanism of democracy is to abolish political organizations wholesale?

        The core mechanism of democracy is to protect itself, and first and foremost that means protecting itself from facism. A political organisation that’s threatening democracy should obviously not be allowed, so it will be banned.