• lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      Why can’t we just express our disgust with the situation we’re in without being called a psyop? I’m going to vote for Biden. I’m still pissed that this is where we’re at. People were saying he was too old in the primaries before the last election and the Dems still shoved him down our throats and they’re going to do it again. It’s fucking bullshit. At the very least we need a candidate that’s young enough that they’re going to have to live with the consequences of their decsisions

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        It doesn’t matter if you literally preface every comment you make with “I AM VOTING BLUE NO MATTER WHO” with these people, every criticism is a psyop to get people to not vote.

        You’d think having a candidate that polls like shit would be what makes people not vote for him. But no, it’s actually the fault of the people pointing out he is a bad candidate and that perhaps we should run someone who doesn’t repeatedly shout that “we beat Medicare” in the middle of a fucking debate.

        The Democratic establishment fucking loves Trump, the specter of him is a permanent fundraiser and no matter who they trot out or how weak a candidate they are they don’t have to change anything, because the alternative is literally fascism.

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        I’m going to vote for Biden.

        Then save the issues until we’re sure we still have democracy.

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          No, you motherfuckers have been telling me to keep my opinions to myself since the last election and I’m sick of it. If he can’t get enough votes to win that’s on the Dems for running him in the first place. Fuck you and fuck them. It’s long past time to stop blaming the fucking republicans for the mess we’re in and actually push back. Maybe if he actually used that power the supreme court just handed him my opinion would change but he’s already admitted he’s too much of a pussy to do anything with it.

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            Wait until it’s not election year so they can ignore you easier

            Stop making such a big deal about civil rights, we want to help but you should do it right

            Why would I want to side with climate activists when all they do is block traffic and make my day worse?

            MLK Jr was right. The worst people are the ones who are comfortable where they are and want to stop any change they see happening because it might inconvenience their idea of reality. They’ll let the actual enemy win just to make sure they don’t have to hear how they are involved in their own downfall.

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              You’re describing conservatives. Get on the Dem train if you’re being. Honest with yourself.

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                Yeah I’m describing white liberals which mostly call themselves Democrats without reaching to their larger voting base of the actual working class.

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          It’s gone. You ain’t had that in years. The reichstag already happened, yall just catching on 20 years late cause the mask is now longer necessary.

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          Damn. I thought cultish thought-stopping was something we didn’t really have very far left of (what the U.S. calls) center. Would you like to see Democrats comparing Biden to Jesus like the MAGA crowd does Trump? The day the Democratic party becomes just as much of a cult as the Republican party is the day we have two literally fascist parties to choose between rather than a fascist party and still-a-major-win-for-the-fascists-but-at-least-not-quite-as-bad party.

          Unless something completely unexpected (like a third party candidate actually having a chance of winning) happens between now and November, I’m voting blue no matter who in the general election. I think everyone else in the U.S. should as well, and I’ll tell them that. But nobody is served by liberals (and lefties) deluding themselves into thinking our choice is between anything other than two unequal evils.

          What’s your reasoning here? Are you hoping that if you and I lie and say Biden’s going to fix everything, it’ll get more people to vote blue than if we tell them to vote for the lesser evil (which, to be clear, is the candidate with the D next to their name)? Because I really think the case could be made that the opposite is true. Or do you really think Biden is a perfect, infallable candidate?

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      Or maybe we are just panicking at the person we can literally tell is unliked by other voters when even the people who will begrudgingly hold our nose at the vote are starting to get disgusted by the smell.

      Seriously how hard is it to to not pretend people aren’t struggling swallowing it down and the people ringing alarm bells are just that and not some special person trying to influence others but just don’t want to hit the iceberg because it seemed like it would cost less fuel to just try ramming it and hoping we get lucky.

      Fuck me. This is gonna be one of those parts of textbooks where it says infighting led to the party not moving fast enough to face the threat and whichever side makes it out the other side scapegoats the other as being the reason it got so bad.

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        Conservatism is the minority in America, and rarely wins through above average voter turnout, which is why they do everything in their power to gerrymander and disenfranchise voters. That doesn’t change the following facts:

        1. The “resign” efforts are a campaign spearheaded by the fascist propaganda machine (because they have no platform beyond fascist dictatorship).

        2. Anyone and anything, from a dementia ward patient to a wet sack of shit, is more qualified and deserving than every 21st C Republican.

        3. Biden is in noticeable cognitive decline, his debate performance was ridiculous, he probably will not live another 4 years, and isn’t there because he’s the best choice.

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      Republican Kremlin. Pretty fucked that Lemmy swallows it hook, line, and sinker.

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      But also the snowflakes that avoid tarnishing their pure souls by avoiding difficult choices altogether. They don’t care if america falls to facism, as long as they can brag about being morally better than you.

      Thankfully, normal people still outnumber them.

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          Oh yes, I’m never going to discourage voting, because that’s dumb and only benefits one side.

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        Yeah, its sad. They’ll abstain because of righteous indignation, then act horrified when their lack of action has consequences.