OK, so, I have a couple of questions:
- What’s the worst that can happen if I don’t use a VPN while pirating?
- Are free tier VPNs (like Proton VPN) good enough?
- I don’t want to pay much or anything for a VPN, is a way I can get a good free one, or set one myself somehow (I have experience with selfhosting) ?
- If not, which cheap one do you recommend?
EDIT: I pirate mostly movies, and rarely some TV series.
This heavily depends on where you live and how your local jurisdiction deals with piracy.
What’s the worst that can happen if I don’t use a VPN while pirating?
For example, torrenting, especially seeding, has a good chance of getting you fined in Germany.
Are free tier VPNs (like Proton VPN) good enough?
Usually not or they are so limited that they are only viable for very small scale piracy.
I don’t want to pay much or anything for a VPN, is a way I can get a good free one, or set one myself somehow (I have experience with selfhosting) ?
If you run a server at home it’s still using your public IP, so a personal VPN (you connecting to your own server) really doesn’t help.
If not, which cheap one do you recommend?
Most VPNs are pretty cheap on monthly basis if you sign up for a couple of years. I’m currently using NordVPN (which is like $3 a month). But If I’d have to pick a new provider at this time I’d go with Mullvad.
Yeah, I still have like 2 more years left on my NordVPN, but the moment that dies, I’m moving to Mullvad (or something similar or better if available).
What about port forwarding? Mullvad p***ied out to the IP holders and dropped it
Good point. I guess AirVPN would my my 2nd choice. But for my setup I don’t actually need it.
Torrents yes, always VPN. If you’re doing the debrid route, not required but personally I still do.
I am a big fan of mullvad VPN as they take no info from you to create an account. Can pay with crypto. No name, email or anything tied to their service. Used proton, nord and pia in the past.
Depends on how hard your country cracks down on individual piracy. If you’ve heard a friend of yours in the same country being served a copyright notice for pirating; you absolutely need a VPN. If you’ve never heard of this and the idea sounds impossible, you typically won’t need it.
If you will need a VPN; I would heavily recommend Proton VPN for convenience. If you want to selfhost you’re going to need a server in a different country which will still cost you money. Assuming you’ll pay for a typical sbc + gigabit internet + electricity costs + remote maintenance costs and you’ll be looking at a way bigger cost than just 60 euros a year. That’s how much ProtonVPN costs.
If you’re just watching movies and tv I highly recommend just grabbing one of the streaming sites from the masterlist. Use a good ad blocker and you’re golden.
- The worst that can happen is nintendo sues you for ten times what you have to make an example out of you. More likely is angry isp letters and eventually a fine.
- Generally no, but they’re better than nothing.
- Not that I know of. You can kind of set one up yourself on a vps, but that would probably cost more.
- I would recommend airvpn. They are fairly cheap, accept standard credit/debit cards, as well as crypto or even cash (like actual mailed cash, it’s kinda crazy).
“angry ISP letters” followed by termination of service and inability to get new service from that ISP for that physical address no matter who attempts to sign up for new service under a different name. if your address is only serviced by one local ISP, and there’s no good alternative, then you’re fucking hosed. every other concern is a distant second to that.
Depends highly on your country. Generally, for file sharing (peer 2 peer such as torrents), yes. For regular downloads & streaming sites, not so much, just a fully subscribed adblocker and a bit of brain juice. Although there had been some cases of peer 2 peer streaming in the past, but I think that was via flash players. I don’t know if that’s still a thing anywhere and if it is, I think it would not make it into the megathread (I hope).
The free plan on Proton doesn’t let you torrent.
If you are doing any downloads (especially torrents) you should be using a VPN.
- Your ISP will usually send a letter telling you to stop, in some cases they’ve been known to cut peoples service.
- Free vpns sell your data and usually have caps, but would probably prevent you from getting letters in the mail.
- What is cheaper? A vpn account or paying for 2-3 streaming services?
- I use a nordvpn account I bought from a reseller. Back when I got it nordvpn was still pretty good, but idk how people feel about it nowadays.
- Are free tier VPNs (like Proton VPN) good enough?
Other people have already answered this but keep in mind a lot of them are browser based. Even if you are using a web UI for your torrent client that’s not going to protect you. I’ve seen a few people here make that mistake.
- I don’t want to pay much or anything for a VPN, is a way I can get a good free one, or set one myself somehow (I have experience with selfhosting) ?
Have you considered looking into direct downloads?
They are a bit more work but if you are motivated on going in without protection it’s a safer alternative.
If it helps you rationalise the cost of a VPN you can always think about how much money you save compare to paying for subscription services.
Depends what country you’re in
You could use i2p for torrent it is free and secure, but slow
If you have many choices for your Internet Service Providers where you are, go ahead, and if they terminate your service, sign up for another one, if there isn’t, a VPN is absolutely necessary if only to protect your access.
Free and much better look up I2P
The worst outcome of torrenting without a VPN depends on what country you live in. In the US, theoretically the worst thing that can happen is going to prison for many years and paying a huge fine, but as long as you’re not monetarily profiting somehow, realistically you’ll get multiple warnings to stop from your ISP and the government before it escalates to that point. The worst thing that can happen is your ISP cancels your service and blacklists you, which can be bad if they have a monopoly on internet service in your area.
Look in a Debird service. And pay with crypto.Then you are completely anonymous. All torrenting is done far from you and sent back over https.
Cryptocurrency is not necessarily anonymous. Buying bitcoin from a broker leaves a record connecting your payment method to your wallet. Even if you mine them yourself, doesn’t your IP address show up on the public ledger? I guess if you somehow bought bitcoin in cash…
Is there a more private cryptocurrency I’m not considering?
Monero
I consider it more private than like a credit card at least your name’s not attached to it.
And if you really want to you can just use a credit card at an on-ramp exchange, then take that and swap it for a different crypto on a exchange that doesn’t require any registration. Then it becomes effectively completely anonymous.