Happy if JJ never gets near a Trek set again, but as far as the new series are concerned, I’d rank them all between “pretty good” and “excellent”. Except Picard, but even that mess was at least a better send off than Nemesis.
Berman? Best thing he ever did was stay away from DS9, and that just because he was too busy making Voyager worse.
I think it’s mostly still TOS fans who tend to look down on the newer series as never quite living up to the original. We are of course right to do so.
I’m a TOS fan. It was my first love and will always be my favorite Star Trek. But I cannot disagree with you more. There is a line running all through Star Trek- the ideals of the Federation and why they should be upheld. And that is what is most important about Star Trek to me in terms of living up to the original.
I occasionally sneak that into a playlist while my wife and I are listening to something, and then I leave the room for a bit. I don’t do it too often, though, because I don’t want a divorce.
I guarantee you that not only were there plenty of people who loved it the first time they heard it, there were plenty of people who loved it the first time the heard it on the Rod Stewart album they already owned when the show came out.
Now me, I hate Rod Stewart and I hate that song, but different strokes…
Several of the scripts were adapted from the aborted Star Trek II TV series, which was going to have most of the original crew return. Spock being the notable exception.
Yep.
TOS fans in 1987: “This Next Generation show is nothing like TOS and ruins everything about Star Trek!”
TNG fans in 1993: “Deep Space 9 isn’t about exploration, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!”
DS9 fans in 1995: “Voyager isn’t going to have Klingons or Romulans and the only Vulcan is black, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!”
Voyager fans in 2001: “Enterprise is a prequel, so we know exactly what will happen, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!”
Enterprise fans a few years ago- hell, take your pick of bitching.
All Trek fans after Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci showed up: Can we get Berman and Piller back please?
Nobody wants Berman back.
Happy if JJ never gets near a Trek set again, but as far as the new series are concerned, I’d rank them all between “pretty good” and “excellent”. Except Picard, but even that mess was at least a better send off than Nemesis.
Berman? Best thing he ever did was stay away from DS9, and that just because he was too busy making Voyager worse.
I think it’s stayed TNG and ds9 fans
You’d be wrong. There are people who consider each of those their favorite Star Trek.
I think it’s mostly still TOS fans who tend to look down on the newer series as never quite living up to the original. We are of course right to do so.
I’m a TOS fan. It was my first love and will always be my favorite Star Trek. But I cannot disagree with you more. There is a line running all through Star Trek- the ideals of the Federation and why they should be upheld. And that is what is most important about Star Trek to me in terms of living up to the original.
“I wonder if they’ll give this show a proper finale? Eh. Probably too much to ask. The intro music isn’t bad, at least.”
“The intro music sucks and isn’t Star Trek because it’s a pop song” was like the very first complaint people made upon seeing the first episode.
It is a bad, cheesy, non-trek song that we ironically called good for so long we actually started liking it for real.
It’s insidious
I occasionally sneak that into a playlist while my wife and I are listening to something, and then I leave the room for a bit. I don’t do it too often, though, because I don’t want a divorce.
I guarantee you that not only were there plenty of people who loved it the first time they heard it, there were plenty of people who loved it the first time the heard it on the Rod Stewart album they already owned when the show came out.
Now me, I hate Rod Stewart and I hate that song, but different strokes…
Enterprise enjoyers today:
It’s been a long road, getting from there to here.
Ironically the first season of tng was exactly like tos and the show didn’t hit is stride until it threw that out and started doing it’s own thing
Several of the scripts were adapted from the aborted Star Trek II TV series, which was going to have most of the original crew return. Spock being the notable exception.
TBF DS9 did add Star Wars battles as soon as Roddenberry died.
And none of those other predictions were true either.