• KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    You might be wondering why this information isn’t public already. Republicans passed a law to keep this information private. Yes, they’re protecting the identity of criminals selling guns to cartels.

    Fucking vote

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
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      3 months ago

      Republicans passed a law to keep this information private.

      They passed a law requiring the Mexican Government to keep it private? Fascinating…tell me more!

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        3 months ago

        Per the linked article.

        “Gun trace data is kept out of public view by a rider to a Congressional bill known as the “Tiahrt Amendment,” passed in 2003 to shield gun shops from scrutiny. Each year, the ATF provides a count of the guns recovered in Mexico that had been bought in the U.S., with no further details.”

        Nothing to do with the Mexican govt. The US govt passed a law in 2003 to prevent gun sale data from being public record. This includes sales of firearms eventually used in armed conflicts in Mexico.

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          Nothing to do with the Mexican govt.

          I’m interested to know how the Mexican Government, who also had / has the trace data, is bound by the Tiahart Amendment.

          I know it’s going to be an unpopular opinion but I really see no problem with the Tiahart Amendment shielding Firearms Manufacturers and Gun Stores. The Manufacturers are already regulated and monitored directly by the Federal Government and Gun Stores can only make sales in compliance with Federal Law. They should not be culpable in either Criminal or Civil court for that reason. The truth is that most of the organization who want that data aren’t working in Good Faith and only want it so they can launch lawsuits meant to force Manufacturers and Sellers out of business.

          It gets even worse at the individual level. There is absolutely zero cause for firearm transaction records to an individual to be publicly available. It’s not only a gross violation of privacy but it’s also a security concern.

          What you SHOULD be mad about is why the BATFE, who clearly and provably does have this data, isn’t doing something with it. They already know literally everything in this article and yet they don’t seem to be doing much about it. Why?

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            I can be both mad that this data isn’t public record and that the BATFE aren’t doing their jobs.

            I would disagree that there’s zero reason for this data to be public record. I’d agree with you if we were just shielding individuals who are purchasing like one handgun or something. That’s something that I don’t think is anyone else’s business. But if a dude is buying 95 semi-automatic rifles in a short period of time you bet your ass I think that should be public knowledge. No one should be able to secretly purchase enough firearms to arm a small militia.

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              That’s a huge risk for robbery and basically just asking for trouble. Shit tier idea to make that public knowledge tbh. Criminal doesn’t have a gun? Good thing they can just find someone that does. Already have one? Then they rob someone with 30 and put the guns onto the black market (still registered to the previous owner.)

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                Aren’t you forgetting something? Every gun owner is a super cool action hero and if anyone tries to break into their house they’ll be all “blam blam blam” and they’ll be able to turn on their wives again.

    • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, its time for democrats to protect the identity of criminals selling guns to cartels.

      Fucking vote

          • PunnyName@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Says someone who doesn’t understand, or interact with, the political process.

            Vote local. Canvas. Look at candidate histories and platforms. Work with candidates you support. And any time a ranked voting system is up for a vote, VOTE FOR IT.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Drug Cartel violence can sometimes cross the line to terrorism, but usually isn’t classified that way. Terrorism is generally defined by targeted attacks against civilians in order to achieve political goals. Most drug cartel violence does not meet that definition.

      Drug cartel violence is basically just gang violence. Violence for the sake of maintaining power.

      I suppose “terrorism” is a more powerful word that evokes greater emotion from people, but we shouldn’t use it inappropriately or we risk separating the word from its own meaning.

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        I’d say their routine targeting of journalists, celebrities, kidnapping of school children fits that definition of terrorism.

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    3 months ago

    Didn’t we know this for years?

    We’re a net-exporter of firearms to south of the border.

    In effect, we’ve created a key component of the problem that inevitably feeds mass migration north to flee said crime and poverty.