Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed that Israel will stand alone and “fight with our fingernails” in defiance of US threats to further restrict arms deliveries if Israeli forces proceeded with an offensive on the southern Gazan city of Rafah.

Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, was speaking on Thursday after Israeli and Hamas delegations left the ceasefire negotiations in Cairo.

It was unclear whether the talks had broken down or simply paused, but the failure to reach an agreement on this week’s round of meetings raised apprehension of an imminent Israeli attack on Rafah.

Netanyahu appeared to shrug off a public warning from the US president, Joe Biden, the previous night that if the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a major offensive on the city the US would not provide bombs and artillery shells to support the operation.

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  • BOMBS@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    “we”. mfer is sending other people to war. he is not involved in any fighting. eff outta here

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          8 months ago

          I know y’all are quoting System of a Down, so I want to share a country song about exactly this…because the difference in the musical styles is neat. One of my favorites by Steve Earle: Rich Man’s War.

          It’s a song I’ve always loved for the direct message of rich people using poor folks as soldiers in wars…but also the way it weaves in a larger economic picture about the decisions by the rich that put people in the very desperate positions that they later exploit.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      A number of high profile Israel failkids have gotten themselves killed doing insane bullshit in Gaza since the bombing started. The war cabinet minister Gadi Eizenkot’s son headed a commando raid into northern Gaza in the middle of a bombing run. Very likely he was killed in friendly fire, under orders from his own father.

      Much like the 30 year old Brigadier General and his 20 subordinates who killed themselves dynamiting the home of a slaughtered Palestinian family, he’s become collateral damage in his country’s bloodthirsty rampage of revenge.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Pay attention to this, America. This is a desperate politician facing embarrassment, criminal prosecution, prolonged jail and international ridicule for the rest of his life if this “war” doesn’t perpetrate indefinitely. This is how trump will hold the US hostage if your boomer aunts and uncles in the swing state suburbs elect him again.

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        He won’t be able to stage a coup this time because he won’t be able to kneecap the defenses.

        They try it again they’re going to have more than just one Babbit.

  • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    OK. Do it.

    A) Most people don’t believe that the only way Israel is able to fight off the evil Palestinians is because of bid daddy US.

    B) The 13,000 Palestinian children you have murdered would’ve been happy to be able to defend themselves against fingernails.

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    8 months ago

    lol did he think that made them sound strong or tough, or does he realize it makes him sound like an emotional manbaby?

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    8 months ago

    Good, then let them fight with their fingernails. STOP ALL MONEY & WEAPONS TO ISRAEL.

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    8 months ago

    When you play the victim role one (or rather 50) times too many.

    According to Israel, everyone is against Israel

    Sometimes, when everything is shit, check your shoes instead of telling others that they are shit

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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      If you perfectly obey israel and wag your tail for them you are allowed to exist.

      The second anyone pushes back in the slightest against their Nazi regime trying to execute a Holocaust they are instantly slandered as Hamas.

      Israel has no qualms throwing loyal dogs that have been supporting them for their entire lives, just look at Genocide Joe getting labeled as Hamas the second he draws any lines.

      These are not people that can be negotiated with. The are extremist maniacs.

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    8 months ago

    Ridiculous that Biden is changing policy due to students protesting a war just because the aggressor/initiator is losing badly. He’s lost their votes already.

    Hoping they take Rafah soon and eliminate every last Hamas jihadist and hopefully get some hostages back alive

    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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      Taking Rafah… Rafah has been occupied for the better part of a century, my dude, they’re not taking land to root out terrorists. They’re just killing people for the sake of killing people.

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              Actually, the percentage rate at which people are dying in Palestine exceeds that of WWII. They’ve also got the most dead reporters in such a short timeframe, perhaps ever recorded.

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                Which figures are you using? Hamas figures can be taken with a pinch of salt. The best approximation I saw was 3:1 non combatants to combatants which as awful as it sounds is actually very good for dense urban warfare.

                Hamas are not fighting like a regular countries army would fight. They do not care for their own civilians

        • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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          If you think Israel does not want any civilian casualties in Gaza, ask yourself some of these questions:

          1. Why have more than half of the homes in Gaza been demolished?
          2. Why has Israel shelled hospitals and refugee camps?
          3. Why has Israel intentionally crippled Agriculture in Palestine?
          4. Why has Isreal limited the amount of water and electricity available in Gaza?
          5. Why do the aid trucks entering Gaza have an average wait time of 20 days? Does it take you 20 days to search a vehicle?
          6. Why have the IDF opened fire on crowds gathering around those trucks delivering food?
          7. What country did Hamas weapons travel through to get there? It wasn’t Egypt, as the former Muslim Brotherhood, whom Hamas is a branch off of, in Egypt was overthrown a decade ago.

          Netanyahu allowed Gaza to arm themselves. Netanyahu ignored warnings of the attack in October. Netanyahu allowed them to enter from multiple directions while the best surveillance system on Earth suddenly became useless. Netanyahu brought you this war.

          If your goal was to kill as many civilians as possible without risk to your “own people” nearby, then you would operate this war much like Netanyahu has. I believe he would have napalmed the entire region if the rest of the world weren’t threatening sanctions and intervention.

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      If those old oral traditions turn out to be prophetic, I wonder if that makes Russia an analogical Jormungandr, eating the remnants of the former USSR and growing ever larger.

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          In the hypothetical that an oral Scandinavian tradition told of the world’s actual end, some or all of the story could be lost in translation or hallucinations.

          Thor fought for the Norse against the great serpents, so maybe it could be symbolic of the EU in a proxy war with China. Idk. We’re all just making stuff up, feel free to fill in the blanks, I’m not your prophet.

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    8 months ago

    Maybe the US should just stop arming Israel and give the arms to Gaza instead and see how that plays out.

    I can’t believe this bullshit has gone on for so long

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      For sure, Hamas would never use the weapons for anything else than in a pure defensive manner. Can guarantee it.

      Hamas is a wholesome book club.

      /S

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          None of the parties should be armed by an external force. This conflict is eating an insane amount of attention but has a miniscule importance for anyone not involved. It’s actually insane how many westerners makes up their whole identity by this conflict.

          Europe and the US have enough to worry about with themselves. Russia is a direct threat to freedom in Europe, and people here are worrying about some dispute far away that doesn’t affect them at all.

          Arming any part in this conflict is dumb.

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        my brother in christ, this is exactly the point. isis-ra-el is only emboldened by foreign weapons. cut that shit in half and give the other half to the palestinians and shit changes. without foreign support vis-a-vis british zionists in the 30s and 40s and current american tax money isis-ra-el would have been de-platformed already

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    Israel’s ministry of peace said on Thursday that the withholding of arms would pose no obstacle to the swift end to the looming Hamas threat. They added - All previous Palestine land will be ready for Israel citizen settlements by next spring. /s In case that’s necessary.

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      Jared Kushner says Gaza’s ‘waterfront property could be very valuable’

      He said that if he were in charge of Israel his number one priority would be getting civilians out of the southern city of Rafah, and that “with diplomacy” it could be possible to get them into Egypt.

      “But in addition to that, I would just bulldoze something in the Negev, I would try to move people in there,” he said. “I think that’s a better option, so you can go in and finish the job.”

      He reiterated the point a little later, saying: “I do think right now opening up the Negev, creating a secure area there, moving the civilians out, and then going in and finishing the job would be the right move.”

      Just need a little Lebensraum and we can get it with this Final Solution.