Hamas is evil. But who have the Palestinian children been killing?
Of the 35,000 official deaths (the real number is likely much, much higher), 25,000 have been positively identified as innocents - 15,000 of which were children.
More than 50% of all homes in Gaza have been destroyed.
Hospitals, schools, and refugee camps have been intentionally targeted.
International food and water are being withheld while aid workers, UN personnel, and jornalists are being targeted.
There’s no way to justify this as an appropriate response to Hamas.
Both sides have killed children. Hamas is not innocent. They took hostages. Some of those hostages were children. They abused, raped, and even killed their hostages. In response, Israel has struck Palestinians; Hamas and non-Hamas, killing men, women, and children. Both sides are killing people, instead of taking their families and leaving the area. No one should have Gaza. Neither side deserves it. I refuse to support either side. I would only support a movement by the UN to relocate families as asylum seekers, in an effort to remove the children from the war. No one else deserves sympathy in this but the children. That’s my opinion. You don’t need to agree with it, but I can’t support someone who says they support one side, or the other, after all of the killings. It would be like cheering on a prison yard fight between two convicted murderers and trying to convince some bystander that either one is the lesser evil. I’m not buying a ticket to this event. I don’t want to watch. Neither side is a hero.
I believe the part that your point is missing is that Hamas and Palestine are two distinct groups. I’m sure there’s some overlap, but Palestinians are not Hamas simply by virtue of being born Palestinian.
They are generally innocent victims in a war being waged against them by Israel. Hamas is fighting Israel, so I don’t doubt that many Palestinians see them as the only way to fight back, but this is the result of decades of oppression against Palestinians
I don’t support Hamas’ methods either, but I still support the people of Palestine over the senseless attacks Israel is engaging in
This argument might be valid, except both sides are not equal. One side has more power than the other. Palestine is under occupation.
Then you would have been against the ANC in South Africa. The ANC was oppressed and used violence against their oppressors. Then you would have been against Civil Rights in America. The Civil Rights movement used violence against their oppressors in America.
Palestinians have an internationally recognized “right to resist” colonial occupation.
You must be a troll. Are you really not able to say “quit killing innocents?” That goes for both sides BTW. “Quit killing children, quit killing innocent people.” Is that really hard? Protesting the people who are actively killing children and innocents using American made bombs seems pretty straightforward. Don’t kill innocent people. Don’t commit genocide.
Did you not read my comment? My comment was specifically against both sides because they are killing people, such as innocent children. I don’t need to go cause riot in an American city over it. America isn’t Israel or Palestine. Our civilians and our law enforcement shouldn’t be inconvenienced by huge demonstrations that should really be happening in Gaza. The place to protest against something would be in the place where the offensive action is occurring. Biden already announced he is pulling aide from Israel. Biden already sent food to the Palestinians. What more do you want from Americans by protesting? Do you want us all to fight a war against two countries that are not governed by America? You want America to jump right in to battle; to sacrifice lives of American service people? You want us to police an issue that doesn’t directly involve America. Then everyone will be protesting it as if it’s the Vietnam War. I don’t think we need to be encouraging Americans to pick a side.
I think other countries could offer plane tickets and sanctuary guarantees to families who want to escape, while making sure to send Israelis and Palestinians to different countries for that sanctuary. They could encourage a mass relocation of civilians. Gaza should just be evacuated entirely and no one should live there ever again. People will disagree with me. That’s fine. It’s better than saying, “let’s send them bombs and jets!”
Since both sides have killed people, and are still killing people. I cannot take up cause with either side. I hope people understand.
Hamas is evil. But who have the Palestinian children been killing?
Of the 35,000 official deaths (the real number is likely much, much higher), 25,000 have been positively identified as innocents - 15,000 of which were children.
More than 50% of all homes in Gaza have been destroyed.
Hospitals, schools, and refugee camps have been intentionally targeted.
International food and water are being withheld while aid workers, UN personnel, and jornalists are being targeted.
There’s no way to justify this as an appropriate response to Hamas.
Both sides have killed children. Hamas is not innocent. They took hostages. Some of those hostages were children. They abused, raped, and even killed their hostages. In response, Israel has struck Palestinians; Hamas and non-Hamas, killing men, women, and children. Both sides are killing people, instead of taking their families and leaving the area. No one should have Gaza. Neither side deserves it. I refuse to support either side. I would only support a movement by the UN to relocate families as asylum seekers, in an effort to remove the children from the war. No one else deserves sympathy in this but the children. That’s my opinion. You don’t need to agree with it, but I can’t support someone who says they support one side, or the other, after all of the killings. It would be like cheering on a prison yard fight between two convicted murderers and trying to convince some bystander that either one is the lesser evil. I’m not buying a ticket to this event. I don’t want to watch. Neither side is a hero.
Fuck Hamas. They lied about giving up violence to get elected into power, then used violence to remain in power and refuse to hold future elections.
Also - the government of Israel is committing at least 3 of the 5 categories of genocide as defined by the Holocaust Museum.
Opposing Israel’s objectively-worse behavior is not the same as supporting Hamas.
I think you misunderstand my point. I am not failing to oppose Israel. I oppose BOTH sides of this conflict.
I believe the part that your point is missing is that Hamas and Palestine are two distinct groups. I’m sure there’s some overlap, but Palestinians are not Hamas simply by virtue of being born Palestinian.
They are generally innocent victims in a war being waged against them by Israel. Hamas is fighting Israel, so I don’t doubt that many Palestinians see them as the only way to fight back, but this is the result of decades of oppression against Palestinians
I don’t support Hamas’ methods either, but I still support the people of Palestine over the senseless attacks Israel is engaging in
This argument might be valid, except both sides are not equal. One side has more power than the other. Palestine is under occupation.
Then you would have been against the ANC in South Africa. The ANC was oppressed and used violence against their oppressors. Then you would have been against Civil Rights in America. The Civil Rights movement used violence against their oppressors in America.
Palestinians have an internationally recognized “right to resist” colonial occupation.
You must be a troll. Are you really not able to say “quit killing innocents?” That goes for both sides BTW. “Quit killing children, quit killing innocent people.” Is that really hard? Protesting the people who are actively killing children and innocents using American made bombs seems pretty straightforward. Don’t kill innocent people. Don’t commit genocide.
Did you not read my comment? My comment was specifically against both sides because they are killing people, such as innocent children. I don’t need to go cause riot in an American city over it. America isn’t Israel or Palestine. Our civilians and our law enforcement shouldn’t be inconvenienced by huge demonstrations that should really be happening in Gaza. The place to protest against something would be in the place where the offensive action is occurring. Biden already announced he is pulling aide from Israel. Biden already sent food to the Palestinians. What more do you want from Americans by protesting? Do you want us all to fight a war against two countries that are not governed by America? You want America to jump right in to battle; to sacrifice lives of American service people? You want us to police an issue that doesn’t directly involve America. Then everyone will be protesting it as if it’s the Vietnam War. I don’t think we need to be encouraging Americans to pick a side.
I think other countries could offer plane tickets and sanctuary guarantees to families who want to escape, while making sure to send Israelis and Palestinians to different countries for that sanctuary. They could encourage a mass relocation of civilians. Gaza should just be evacuated entirely and no one should live there ever again. People will disagree with me. That’s fine. It’s better than saying, “let’s send them bombs and jets!”