Doesn’t really seem like the folks holding signs and protesting are being arrested. The people who have set up encampments and are trespassing are being arrested, but they’re clearly and obviously breaking the law. Peaceful protest is protected, vandalism, and attacking students or blocking them from accessing the buildings they’re paying tuition to use isn’t peaceful protest. There’s a hell of a lot of video showing that quite a number of these are not peaceful or protests. Signs calling for intifada are not peaceful.
If you’re trying to equate or conflate the plight of the founding fathers with the plight of a peoples who hold near absolute domination over the entire region with 22 ethnostates, then you need to go back to history class.
This isn’t a fight for freedom in any way, shape or form. It’s a fight to eliminate the only state that isn’t Muslim in the region.
I’m assuming you’ve gone far out of your way to avoid the video that was released on Saturday showing Hamas using un vehicles.
I’m pretty safe in batting that you’ve also managed to avoid the fact that Hamas was having their power provided by a un agency as well.
Those are both incontrovertible facts with clear video evidence. I’ll let you come to a conclusion on whether or not the UN is Hamas or not, but they are certainly making it very difficult to differentiate themselves.
Yes we have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong. Ignore the video evidence that it’s coming out daily and weekly. Ignore the little infrastructure tied into our power grid. Ignore all of that. None of that actually matters here. Only what we say when we are investigating our own doing…
You’re not going to lock people out of campus. Take away the right to access the facilities they’ve paid for and not expect pushback. Super easy way to avoid. This is to not set up illegal encampments in the first place.
Yet again here we have people crying victim over the consequences of their actions. Completely typical among the Anti Jew crowd.
It’s not murder. It’s a war. What happened on October 7th? On the other hand, was murder. The retribution for starting the war is a war in return. The consequences of starting a war are typically identified by a body count. Don’t want none. Don’t start none.
That you failed to understand this, is your failure and demonstrates a serious bias and lack of understanding.
Yeah that’s great. Israel has clearly established that they are not targeting women and children. They’ve dropped leaflets. They’ve made phone calls. They’ve even put idf soldiers at risk having to escort people away from Hamas snipers who are targeting people trying to leave.
Your anger is directed at the wrong people. It needs to be directed at Hamas openly uses human Shields, operates out of civilian quarters and uses what should be protected. Facilities like hospitals and schools to launch attacks from. If you’re going to sit there and say that Israel should not respond to being attacked because they’re being attacked from a hospital then I have no problem calling you in a bigot because what you’re saying in reality is that the Jews need to accept being rocketed and killed. That’s just an absurd position to take, but we’re seeing a lot of absurd people and positions related to this conflict. Like the people trying to claim that anti-zionism is an anti-Semitism. Nothing more absurd than that.
Israel has clearly established that they are not targeting women and children.
Are you nuts? There are 8000 identified children dead. So either the IDF is targeting civilians or their targeting is war-criminal level bad.
what you’re saying in reality is that the Jews need to accept being rocketed and killed
No, they don’t have to accept it. They should elect governments that don’t support apartheid and commit genocide, thus perpetuating the cycle of violence.
The cops literally did more damage than the protestors, you can go ahead and drop that propaganda line from your repetoire. We all saw it live, there’s no one around to believe those particular lies.
That’s just bullshit dude. You’re telling me you haven’t seen the destruction in the libraries and on the campuses? Those were even published in the guardian.
That you’re attempting to gaslight this one and say that the sky isn’t blue isn’t going to fly. There’s just far too much out there proving that many, many of these campus takeovers where anything but peaceful protests.
These people don’t even know why they’re angry and they’re clearly being led around by people with an agenda they’re not aware of. We see this with the intifada guidebook being distributed, this was never a peaceful protest.
The claims of children being half of the dead being a good example of ignorance being amplified. Even the UN fell for it, they’ve admitted their mistakes - I won’t hold my breath for the protesters to do the same.
Thanks for being an example to their point. You’re trying to create an argument. They never said thousands weren’t killed- they said HALF of the dead are not children.
I’m just asking for evidence that thousands of children weren’t killed. The fact that you seemed threatened by the question and defensive tells me a lot about you and your position. Thanks
So…. You’re clearly a troll. Because I find it hard to believe a person can have this much difficulty understanding how to read for context.
I believe I’ve explained this you you twice now. I am not explaining this to you anymore.
If you really want your little ideology to be taken serious by anyone, maybe try and actually engage in good faith to support whatever point is is that you think you have instead of acting like a child and purposefully misrepresenting the statements of others so you can appear to have something to say.
I truly believe that most of them didn’t even know that Israel and Palestine were in a conflict prior to Oct 7th, and more than most couldn’t point to Palestine on a map.
Oh, I’m 100% certain of it. I’ll allow for the fact that there’s some outliers around that are aware of the history between the two nations, but the majority talk like they are trying too hard to appear worldly and caring. Which is what you get when you have to manufacture your own outrage.
It comes off as disingenuous.
Also, their complete lack of knowing how nuance works in these situations indicates that most of them aren’t old enough to understand how these things work- and that political discourse is a never ending series of compromise.
Pouting and threatening to not vote has… checks notes- not ONCE in history, resorted in the aforementioned pouter getting their way.
And the irony is thy think they’re not part of the status quo.
Doesn’t really seem like the folks holding signs and protesting are being arrested. The people who have set up encampments and are trespassing are being arrested, but they’re clearly and obviously breaking the law. Peaceful protest is protected, vandalism, and attacking students or blocking them from accessing the buildings they’re paying tuition to use isn’t peaceful protest. There’s a hell of a lot of video showing that quite a number of these are not peaceful or protests. Signs calling for intifada are not peaceful.
Man it’s a good thing the founding fathers didn’t engage in any vandalism and only peacefully protested until the crown let them become independent.
https://galleries.lafayette.edu/2019/01/02/william-walcutt-pulling-down-the-statue-of-george-iii-at-bowling-green-n-y-july-9-1776/
If you’re trying to equate or conflate the plight of the founding fathers with the plight of a peoples who hold near absolute domination over the entire region with 22 ethnostates, then you need to go back to history class.
This isn’t a fight for freedom in any way, shape or form. It’s a fight to eliminate the only state that isn’t Muslim in the region.
The United Nations disagrees with you. Are they Hamas now?
I’m assuming you’ve gone far out of your way to avoid the video that was released on Saturday showing Hamas using un vehicles.
I’m pretty safe in batting that you’ve also managed to avoid the fact that Hamas was having their power provided by a un agency as well.
Those are both incontrovertible facts with clear video evidence. I’ll let you come to a conclusion on whether or not the UN is Hamas or not, but they are certainly making it very difficult to differentiate themselves.
Then please provide said facts.
Edit: A UN-commissioned review found Israel had failed to provide evidence to back up the claim.
The United Nations 🇺🇳 is Hamas now, good luck with that.
Yes we have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong. Ignore the video evidence that it’s coming out daily and weekly. Ignore the little infrastructure tied into our power grid. Ignore all of that. None of that actually matters here. Only what we say when we are investigating our own doing…
It’s also a good thing that Pro-Israeli counter protestors would never do anything like that themselves. Right?
RIGHT?
Oh… oh hang on.
That’s to find out part after fucking around LOL.
You’re not going to lock people out of campus. Take away the right to access the facilities they’ve paid for and not expect pushback. Super easy way to avoid. This is to not set up illegal encampments in the first place.
Yet again here we have people crying victim over the consequences of their actions. Completely typical among the Anti Jew crowd.
Not like you though, right?
Completely typical of the Zionist crowd. Gotta play the victim as they murder thousands.
It’s not murder. It’s a war. What happened on October 7th? On the other hand, was murder. The retribution for starting the war is a war in return. The consequences of starting a war are typically identified by a body count. Don’t want none. Don’t start none.
That you failed to understand this, is your failure and demonstrates a serious bias and lack of understanding.
Do you know that war has a definition? Part of that definition, by international agreement and law is to not target civilians, especially children.
It’s considered a war crime. Israel is clearly and provably guilty of war crimes.
Yeah that’s great. Israel has clearly established that they are not targeting women and children. They’ve dropped leaflets. They’ve made phone calls. They’ve even put idf soldiers at risk having to escort people away from Hamas snipers who are targeting people trying to leave.
Your anger is directed at the wrong people. It needs to be directed at Hamas openly uses human Shields, operates out of civilian quarters and uses what should be protected. Facilities like hospitals and schools to launch attacks from. If you’re going to sit there and say that Israel should not respond to being attacked because they’re being attacked from a hospital then I have no problem calling you in a bigot because what you’re saying in reality is that the Jews need to accept being rocketed and killed. That’s just an absurd position to take, but we’re seeing a lot of absurd people and positions related to this conflict. Like the people trying to claim that anti-zionism is an anti-Semitism. Nothing more absurd than that.
Are you nuts? There are 8000 identified children dead. So either the IDF is targeting civilians or their targeting is war-criminal level bad.
No, they don’t have to accept it. They should elect governments that don’t support apartheid and commit genocide, thus perpetuating the cycle of violence.
Do you know how Israel protested the British empire to get their attention and Palestine’s land after WWI?
They created a terrorist group to target and murder high ranking officials.
The cops literally did more damage than the protestors, you can go ahead and drop that propaganda line from your repetoire. We all saw it live, there’s no one around to believe those particular lies.
That’s just bullshit dude. You’re telling me you haven’t seen the destruction in the libraries and on the campuses? Those were even published in the guardian.
That you’re attempting to gaslight this one and say that the sky isn’t blue isn’t going to fly. There’s just far too much out there proving that many, many of these campus takeovers where anything but peaceful protests.
I hope you learned your lesson on applying a nuanced point to the willfully outraged masses. It doesn’t work in this environment.
These people need to be angry. And using rationality is almost always predictably met with nonsense and bad-faith arguments.
These people don’t even know why they’re angry and they’re clearly being led around by people with an agenda they’re not aware of. We see this with the intifada guidebook being distributed, this was never a peaceful protest.
The claims of children being half of the dead being a good example of ignorance being amplified. Even the UN fell for it, they’ve admitted their mistakes - I won’t hold my breath for the protesters to do the same.
Can you give me a reliable source that the Israelis haven’t killed thousands of children?
Thanks for being an example to their point. You’re trying to create an argument. They never said thousands weren’t killed- they said HALF of the dead are not children.
Learn what context is.
I’m just asking for evidence that thousands of children weren’t killed. The fact that you seemed threatened by the question and defensive tells me a lot about you and your position. Thanks
The fact that you need to change the statement in order to even ask the question, tells me everything about your position. And, you’re not welcome.
I haven’t changed anything. I asked a question that you seem afraid to answer.
So…. You’re clearly a troll. Because I find it hard to believe a person can have this much difficulty understanding how to read for context.
I believe I’ve explained this you you twice now. I am not explaining this to you anymore.
If you really want your little ideology to be taken serious by anyone, maybe try and actually engage in good faith to support whatever point is is that you think you have instead of acting like a child and purposefully misrepresenting the statements of others so you can appear to have something to say.
Because frankly- I’m embarrassed for you.
I truly believe that most of them didn’t even know that Israel and Palestine were in a conflict prior to Oct 7th, and more than most couldn’t point to Palestine on a map.
I am positive you are right.
Oh, I’m 100% certain of it. I’ll allow for the fact that there’s some outliers around that are aware of the history between the two nations, but the majority talk like they are trying too hard to appear worldly and caring. Which is what you get when you have to manufacture your own outrage.
It comes off as disingenuous.
Also, their complete lack of knowing how nuance works in these situations indicates that most of them aren’t old enough to understand how these things work- and that political discourse is a never ending series of compromise.
Pouting and threatening to not vote has… checks notes- not ONCE in history, resorted in the aforementioned pouter getting their way.
And the irony is thy think they’re not part of the status quo.