• Mastengwe@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    I hope you learned your lesson on applying a nuanced point to the willfully outraged masses. It doesn’t work in this environment.

    These people need to be angry. And using rationality is almost always predictably met with nonsense and bad-faith arguments.

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      These people don’t even know why they’re angry and they’re clearly being led around by people with an agenda they’re not aware of. We see this with the intifada guidebook being distributed, this was never a peaceful protest.

      The claims of children being half of the dead being a good example of ignorance being amplified. Even the UN fell for it, they’ve admitted their mistakes - I won’t hold my breath for the protesters to do the same.

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        4 months ago

        Can you give me a reliable source that the Israelis haven’t killed thousands of children?

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          Thanks for being an example to their point. You’re trying to create an argument. They never said thousands weren’t killed- they said HALF of the dead are not children.

          Learn what context is.

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            I’m just asking for evidence that thousands of children weren’t killed. The fact that you seemed threatened by the question and defensive tells me a lot about you and your position. Thanks

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              The fact that you need to change the statement in order to even ask the question, tells me everything about your position. And, you’re not welcome.

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                I haven’t changed anything. I asked a question that you seem afraid to answer.

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                  4 months ago

                  So…. You’re clearly a troll. Because I find it hard to believe a person can have this much difficulty understanding how to read for context.

                  I believe I’ve explained this you you twice now. I am not explaining this to you anymore.

                  If you really want your little ideology to be taken serious by anyone, maybe try and actually engage in good faith to support whatever point is is that you think you have instead of acting like a child and purposefully misrepresenting the statements of others so you can appear to have something to say.

                  Because frankly- I’m embarrassed for you.

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                    4 months ago

                    I’m not trolling. I asked a question that you are afraid to answer. Thou doth protest… I’ve not expressed an ideology. I’ve asked a question. You should typically be wary of those afraid of questions and their answers (that is an ideology).

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        I truly believe that most of them didn’t even know that Israel and Palestine were in a conflict prior to Oct 7th, and more than most couldn’t point to Palestine on a map.

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            Oh, I’m 100% certain of it. I’ll allow for the fact that there’s some outliers around that are aware of the history between the two nations, but the majority talk like they are trying too hard to appear worldly and caring. Which is what you get when you have to manufacture your own outrage.

            It comes off as disingenuous.

            Also, their complete lack of knowing how nuance works in these situations indicates that most of them aren’t old enough to understand how these things work- and that political discourse is a never ending series of compromise.

            Pouting and threatening to not vote has… checks notes- not ONCE in history, resorted in the aforementioned pouter getting their way.

            And the irony is thy think they’re not part of the status quo.