is the man or bear thing rhetorically or optically the perfect feminist meme that is beyond criticism? no.

but is it leaps and bounds better at getting men to understand the material consequences of patriarchy on the physical and emotional health of women than that stupid “kill all men” meme from last decade? definitely.

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    Depends what you mean by feminism if you mean feminism as equality for all then great.

    If you mean feminism as you see a lot of today then maybe not. The fact you never see feminism calling out shitty, toxic female behaviour shows a lot of the picture is missing.

    Holding up everything that lives under the feminism banner as infallible is dangerous. Plenty of low income white guys have been pushed aside for feminism and then told they have all this privilege for living in a place with no economic prospects and they are responsible for how the world was made before they were born.

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      if you see “feminists” excusing shitty behavior, call them the fuck out for it. im not holding everything under the banner of feminism infallible and you shouldn’t either.

      but bad feminists don’t excuse you inserting yourself into a conversation women are having about their lived experiences. and that is precisely what you are doing.

      women are expressing that they have been threatened and hurt, and you are stomping in with some vague “NUH UH a feminist was mean once or twice” to shut up those women. this is, and i don’t say this lightly, despicable.

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        don’t excuse you inserting yourself into a conversation women are having about their

        You seriously think that a meaningful percentage of Lemmy’s active users are women?

        There are more trans/nb/etc users here than cis women.

        Which means it’s impossible for them to insert themselves “into a conversation women are having”

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          1. trans women are women
          2. i have personally seen women getting harassed into deleting their comments and even accounts for expressing their lived experience under patriarchy. men literally came into their replies and brigaded them until they were forced to leave. so you are either misinformed or intentionally lying.