• Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Voting does sort of make you complicit, honestly.

    But guess what? Not voting also makes you complicit. So does voting in a way that has no chance of having an effect based on the current rules.

    Basically, existing as an eligible voter, at least in a country where voting isn’t rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example) makes you complicit in your government’s actions.

    That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society - we are all, every one of us, responsible for the actions of our government.

    And if you don’t like that responsibility, I get it, I totally sympathize, because I agree. I hate that responsibility, especially cause I know damn well I’m not qualified to make those decisions. But I still am responsible, and pretending I’m not doesn’t change that.

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      4 months ago

      eh, im with you but i dont really like the overapplication of the word complicit.

      i much prefer the model that we are a bunch of individuals doing our best to organize against systematic murder. but yes thank you for your corroborating comment :)

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      4 months ago

      Not voting also makes you complicit

      What if I vote for someone you don’t like, though? Say, by endorsing a third party or spoiling the ballot with a write in?

      That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society - we are all, every one of us, responsible for the actions of our government.

      Police officer bludgeoning student protestor with a truncheon

      “WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS, CITIZEN!”

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      4 months ago

      at least in a country where voting isn’t rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example)

      So we’re all off the hook, then?

      That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society

      You don’t live in a democratic society.

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          4 months ago

          Everywhere

          Tell me where you live and I’ll show you how anti-democratic the society you live in really is.

          Up for this challenge?

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              4 months ago

              the anti-democratic nature of germany.

              Gee… what a challenge! I’m going to be completely stumped by this one, eh?

              But just before I do the little surrender dance, we have to… you know - dot the i’s and get the paperwork right, okay?

              You did get to vote on who it is that manages you at your job, right?