• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If you want to argue that the answer to Biden being too soft on Israel’s crimes is to let the guy who handed them East Jerusalem, The West Bank, and The Golan Heights on a silver platter get back into power, you’re either a covert Zionist agent, or an unwitting Zionist agent.

    The answer to Biden’s complicity in Netanyahu’s genocide is greater political pressure for him to stop.

    Of course, people who don’t want him to stop will always try to pretend that any opposition is support for Trump.

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      4 months ago

      Of course, people who don’t want him to stop will always try to pretend that any opposition is support for Trump.

      You honestly think the people posting this sentiment don’t want Netanyahu to stop? That’s a silly opinion if so. Maybe you disagree with the logic being used, but you can’t say these people actively want Netanyahu to continue what he’s doing.

      I want this to end as much as you, but it is undeniable that Biden is a better candidate than Trump in this respect. And in our country there are only 2 options so vote for. So if I’m not voting for Biden, I am just helping Trump get in office and do more harm.

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        You honestly think the people posting this sentiment don’t want Netanyahu to stop?

        I don’t know. They sure as hell don’t want Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide.

        Maybe you disagree with the logic being used, but you can’t say these people actively want Netanyahu to continue what he’s doing.

        Then they should pressure Biden to stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide. They won’t. They get mad at people who say Biden should stop supporting genocide instead.

        I want this to end as much as you,

        Yeah.

        but it is undeniable that Biden is a better candidate than Trump in this respect.

        Yes. He should still stop supporting genocide. Maybe centrists should say so.

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          You can be 2 things at the same time. This whole thread is about voting. It’s possible to pressure Biden while also voting against the undeniably worse candidate.

          What doesn’t make sense is voting in a way that will end up significantly worse for Gaza and saying you’re doing that because you can’t possibly support Biden.

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            It’s possible to pressure Biden while also voting against the undeniably worse candidate.

            Then centrists should start doing the former in addition to the latter.

            Instead, they scream that anyone who does the former wants trump.

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      Of course, people who want an excuse to support trump will pretend anyone not vocally raging about Biden every day is a lover of genocide.

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        4 months ago

        I’ve said multiple times in this thread that I’m voting for Biden. I’ve told you that multiple times as well. You have chosen to ignore it and call me a trumpist.

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          Your insistence on pivoting the conversation to be anti-biden literally every chance you get is suspicious to say the least

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              You know a lot of people really are as stupid as you take them to be, but many aren’t. What you’re doing here is obvious

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                Oh? what I am I doing? What’s the newest baseless accusation are you going to throw at me because I don’t like genocide?

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                  People can see it, I’m not going to keep responding to someone who is quite obviously a bad faith actor.

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                    You’ve said that before, but never miss an opportunity to lob abuse at anyone who opposes genocide.