• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    To be fair. “that wasn’t true Communism” is true. The problem is dictatorships keep getting sold with its name. Ironically proving how hard it would be to actually achieve a world or country of communes.

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      5 months ago

      The only kind of Communism I’m willing to accept is the Star Trek Communism. Until then I’m pro Team “Social market economy”!

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      5 months ago

      The bolshivek revolution made it certain that any communist nation is a dictatorship. The menshiveks would have achieved better results.

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        5 months ago

        The Mensheviks wouldn’t have been much more different than German and French socialdemocrats who accepted capitalism. But there were other relevant left-leaning political forces during the Russian Revolution that were neither Bolsheviks nor Mensheviks - I wonder what happened with them?

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      5 months ago

      Except those people prefer the Chinese and USSR style of social autocracies to actual socialist projects. Some of them even trash worker coops, although that was more true to the InfraHaz style lolcows than the tankies of lemmy…

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          5 months ago

          Oh? Are there no countries with state ownership of industry?

          If that’s your criteria, then yes, there are both truly communist and truly capitalist countries.

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            5 months ago

            Tell me which country claiming to be communist is not actually just a dictatorship with a veneer?

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              5 months ago

              None? That was like 200% sarcasm. You used a single criteria to mark countries as truly capitalist, so I though I might as well do the same.

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      Communism is inherently authoritarian as it puts the needs of a social construct (in this case a “commune” or “society”) over the needs, rights and freedoms of an individual. It is hard to achieve anything good with communism, because totalitarian dictatorship is the only possible outcome for any advanced enough authoritarian ideology.