Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?
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I switched to Radicale and couldn’t be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.
Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.
Completely agree about Nextcloud. The project rose to fame on selfhosters beta testing it, then buddied up to enterprise users and ditched the initial user base.
I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.
Haha, interesting, for me it was the exact opposite, I started with Baikal but it was too weird and I couldn’t get it up and running quickly enough and then I think I was not able to share my calendar with my partner or something, so I switched to Radicale.
What do you do for file syncing, if you don’t mind me asking
Seafile has been great for me.
400gb, multiple users. Single sign in with Authentik.
Just recently setup only office integration
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I think that’s kind of what they meant. I’ve also selfhosted Nextcloud for years, but I only use file sync and calendar/contacts.
Lately I’ve been feeling that Nextcloud is too big and clunky for just that. Like it’s something I’d love to setup at work or for an org, but that it “feels” to heavy for home use these days.
I need to check out Radicale, I think.
Same with me. Nextcloud is the typical it does everything but doesn’t excel in anything
Yeah, I also selfhosted it for years myself. But I was adding more and more services to my server and it became clear that if I would want to keep Nextcloud I’d need a server with more CPU and RAM because when Nextcloud was running it would after half a day deadlock the server with a load of 120 so I had to hard reboot it twice a day.
After replacing it with radicale and syncthing I was able to run Mastodon and Lemmy on the same server additionally.
Syncthing can backup your photos on Android.
Cloudron is kind of a freemium product. They offer a few apps (two ?) for free to use. For more apps you need to pay. Their back-end does have a view-source-but-no-edit “open source” license last time I checked. Bu if you want to keep things easy, go for it.
i have just started running radicale a lot more for calendars and contacts. then use betterbird for the client on my laptop and other android apps.
the problem is that there is no web-ui. otherwise, relatively solid and lightweight server so far.
There is no difference between installing software on a VM and on “bare metal”. The OS takes care of the hardware stuff.
I installed it according to their manual on their website (https://radicale.org/v3.html) which is imo pretty easy. The TLDR is that you first install python3 and its package manager pipx, then you install radicale using pipx and finally you run it as a systemd service. You can just copy their service template. The issue comes when you need to run multiple web services though. Radicale wants to be on the website root (website.com/ instead of website.com/some/path/blablabla/ ) which is not as trivial to set up as the previous steps. They have a template for nginx and apache but you need to kinda know the very basics of one of these to set it up.
Also on debian there is a package so you could technically just apt install radicale and then systemctl enable radicale if you want to avoid creating a service and installing python.
Obviously you need to create a basic config either way according to their manual. At least for password authentification.
OK, so seems like best way to install Radicals is on my Debian VM using apt. I wonder if anyone has compared Baikal to Radicale …
I haven’t tried Baikal but it seems to have (from the screenshots) just a bit more features. Radicale is merely the calendar+contacts+tasks server. You can login through the web UI to create calendars and delete them. They are then managed by a calendar/contact/task app like thunderbird. Baikal seems to have settings and a dashboard in the web UI which Radicale lacks.
Both seem to have an unofficial docker container if you’re into that.
Well, I was looking fo r the docker container but as my VM is Debian, I’ll go down the apt route which is official and maintained.
I’ve been hoping to find a non-PHP alternative to Nextcloud for a while, but unfortunately I’ve yet to find one which supports my base requirements for the file storage.
Due to some quirks with my setup, my backing storage consists of a mix of local folders, S3 buckets, SMB/SFTP mounts (with user credential login), and even an external WebDav server.
Nextcloud does manage such a thing phenomenally, while all the alternatives I’ve tested (including a Radicale backed by rclone mounts) tend to fall completely to pieces as soon as more than one storage backend ends up getting involved, especially when some of said backends need to be accessed with user-specific credentials.Owncloud infinite scale is a rewrite of owncloud(=nextcloud) in go, it supports local, nfs and S3 mounts. Change the smb share to nfs and it might fit you
Disadvantages are:
- All the plugins need to be rewritten, so if you need some extra feature, it’s going to be missing
- They got acquired by a company that sells an expensive alternative for corporations (RIP? Who is paying millions to maintain a free alternative/competitor?)
- Documentation is inferior, community is much smaller
I just want an app to backup all the photos from my phone automatically. I use NextCloud for that currently and it works well. But, it’s kinda heavy for what I want/need.
There’s also PhotoPrism which is nice. The comparison between the two is evolving with every release.
They don’t have a proper Android app with sync capability and force you to use the proprietary, 3rd-party PhotoSync app.
That’s not entirely correct. PhotoPrism offers WebDAV and SAMBA protocols, and their docs state that clearly: https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/sync/mobile-devices/#other-apps Furthermore, you can always sync files to the server via other means (e.g. SyncThing).
I’m talking about easy to set up, new user friendly solutions. Having an official app with a sync feature is essential in my opinion
have you heard about immich? it’s a bit ‘heavy’, too, but that’s because it’s not just a photo backup solution but aims to be a self-hosted multi-user replacement for google photos.
Can Immich just leave my photos alone in their current location / folder structure, or does it take over and mangle it all up?
I’m fairly happy with my photo storage structure, but would like the features of Immich…
I use it in readonly mode. Works great nice app and great search capabilities.
