Hello everyone! First of all, I’d like to say thank you to every one of you for your support! Our community is about to be the first user-made one to reach 1K users/week on this instance. And our friends over at Ask Lemmy and Mildly Infuriating are following very closely, which is just as amazing!
We’re all working together to establish healthy communities and a friendly atmosphere here. And over at !NoStupidQuestions, we believe that all our members should have a say in what we do & how we do it.
Do you see anything wrong with our rules? Would you like anything removed and/or added? Do you think Rule 6 is useful and good for the community? Do you want a discord server or a matrix chat room?
Please feel free to ask any questions you might have & share your suggestions and ideas!
With Love,
!NoStupidQuestions Mod Team
Rules 2 & 8 have been addressed along with some other updates to the draft.
We already have a matrix chat room.
On Rule 6, troll questions already require a tag, and they are only allowed on Friday.
Rule 7, we’d still like to keep extra measures to protect our members, as “swaying away” often happens too late.
Wow, thanks!
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
“Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.”
You would to ban the entire mod staff now, because you are a members of a group, No Stupid Questions moderators, that is advocating discriminating against another group of people, those that do the things in the aforementioned paragraph. Because you use ANY group of people, it applies. You are setting the mod team up in a situation to decide in groups and out groups.
Am I making sense?
I disagree. The moderator team is not a group known to largely hate or discriminate against any group of people. It has a sole function of keeping the community subject to lemmy.world standards, and enforcing the rules of the community while keeping a friendly language all the way. That’s what it tries to be and that’s what it’s known as.
Enforcing rules is not discrimination, and there’s no one group that breaks rules. As stated many times, lemmy.world is not a free speech platform in a complete sense.
Except you are by having a rule that you can’t be a member of groups that the mod team thinks does.
The wording any group against any other group is so vague it literally applies to anyone. I am a US military veteran. They used to discriminate against women and homosexuals. When I was in, we were actively hunting the Taliban to capture or kill them. So should I be banned? Should Ukrainian soldiers be banned? They kill Russian soldiers. Pretty discriminating. By the way the rule is worded, I need banned, any Ukrainian soldiers here need banned. Everyone needs banned because everyone, by virtue of being a citizen of wherever is member of a group that has discriminated. I can’t vote in Australian elections, so they are discriminating against non Australian citizens.
Thought experiment. What if say, a kkk member is questioning their beliefs and genuinely curious about alternate viewpoints. Banning them just reinforces the idea that these “woke” people hate everyone that doesn’t agree with them.
You’re forgetting the part where it comes down to,
meaning, you are welcome to participate no matter who you are, unless you engage in hate speech against others. Hate speech which would be breaking our friendly atmosphere and disrupting other people’s experience.
Great. So the whole being a member of a group part can be removed then because hate speech is already covered.
It sounds nitpicky, but it is very personal for me. I’ve seen good group/bad group mentality cause some rather monstrous behavior first hand. I realize there is a lot of nuance, but I really dislike any language like that.
Thank you for all your suggestions, and I hope that you’re feeling better and living more peacefully now. We’ll take this into consideration and talk about it today, and i’ll be sure to let you know when & how it is addressed.
Great! I appreciate you taking the time to discuss it with me!