No, that’s the scary thing about ideology. Nearly anyone can be convinced to become a killer. Psychopathy isn’t required.
A psychopath can kill a child and be fully cognizant of their innocence and humanity. They know it’s wrong and just don’t care. That’s not what most are doing.
Ideology acts as a buffer, so these occupation soldiers don’t even acknowledge the children as innocent or human. Just “animals” - the soldiers truly don’t believe they’re doing anything wrong.
They all deserve to be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity, but they aren’t psychopaths. They’re just like us and you have to reconcile with that.
I guess I can’t argue that they’re shitty people, cuz like, they are. That kinda dodges my point about ideology, though! They’re normal people and that’s what’s scary about fascism - they grew up learning to hate Palestinians and dehumanize them, and now they’re acting on what they learned.
There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot be easily duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into work every day and has a job to do.
For what it’s worth the Stanford Prison Experiment was basically a lie. More than merely suffering from psychology’s massive replication crisis (which is enough of a problem on its own), the study was heavily manipulated by those conducting it in order to get the outcome they wanted. Its outcomes really shouldn’t be pointed to as evidence of anything.
As far as I know Milgram is still good and successfully reproducible, however.
Fair, but that argument stops working when it’s a large portion of a society. Our understandings of right and wrong are somewhat a social construct, and so subject to social change. All it really requires is a variation of ‘us v them’ mentality for most people to accept it as fact.
Have you considered the possibility that the majority of people are shitty and/or psychopaths?
Like most people will hear about companies using child slaves in impoverished countries and the biggest reaction is what, a boycott? Even that’s a minority of people, most just keep on truckin’ as if we don’t live in a disgusting fucked up world.
When’s the last time you heard about that Apple factory where people were regularly committing suicide? Why does Nestlé still exist despite widespread public knowledge of all the horrible shit they’ve pulled?
Less a necessarily bad person, and more an ideologically influenced one, I’d wager. Sure, there’s probably a couple psychopaths mixed in too
I’d argue that if ANY ideology can convince you it’s ok to shoot children in the head, you’re already a shitty person and/or psychopath.
No, that’s the scary thing about ideology. Nearly anyone can be convinced to become a killer. Psychopathy isn’t required.
A psychopath can kill a child and be fully cognizant of their innocence and humanity. They know it’s wrong and just don’t care. That’s not what most are doing.
Ideology acts as a buffer, so these occupation soldiers don’t even acknowledge the children as innocent or human. Just “animals” - the soldiers truly don’t believe they’re doing anything wrong.
They all deserve to be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity, but they aren’t psychopaths. They’re just like us and you have to reconcile with that.
Yeah you’re not wrong, that’s why I put the “and/or”.
I guess I can’t argue that they’re shitty people, cuz like, they are. That kinda dodges my point about ideology, though! They’re normal people and that’s what’s scary about fascism - they grew up learning to hate Palestinians and dehumanize them, and now they’re acting on what they learned.
They need deprogramming. Preferably in prison.
You should read about the Milgram Experiments. And the Stanford Prison Experiment.
For what it’s worth the Stanford Prison Experiment was basically a lie. More than merely suffering from psychology’s massive replication crisis (which is enough of a problem on its own), the study was heavily manipulated by those conducting it in order to get the outcome they wanted. Its outcomes really shouldn’t be pointed to as evidence of anything.
As far as I know Milgram is still good and successfully reproducible, however.
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Fair, but that argument stops working when it’s a large portion of a society. Our understandings of right and wrong are somewhat a social construct, and so subject to social change. All it really requires is a variation of ‘us v them’ mentality for most people to accept it as fact.
Have you considered the possibility that the majority of people are shitty and/or psychopaths?
Like most people will hear about companies using child slaves in impoverished countries and the biggest reaction is what, a boycott? Even that’s a minority of people, most just keep on truckin’ as if we don’t live in a disgusting fucked up world.
When’s the last time you heard about that Apple factory where people were regularly committing suicide? Why does Nestlé still exist despite widespread public knowledge of all the horrible shit they’ve pulled?
Bruh, that sound like either projection or very bad place you live in.
What does ‘bad person’ even mean?
he asked rhetorically