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This week’s Weekly discussion thread will be focused on Gender. Here is the definition we will be using so everyone can use the same terminology.
Here are some questions that should help kickstart things:
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Why do you feel it started entering public consciousness in regards to humans about 15 years ago?
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Was it needed?
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Did it do what it was intended to do?
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Are things better or worse now in that specific area?
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Is there anything you do not understand or would like to discuss about the idea of gender?
Huh. See, the only places I knew it from early on was:
I didn’t see it coming from the right, I saw it from the left, and most of the modern writing about it in humans was in feminist university papers. Then the rhetoric caught on in the 2010’s and THEN I saw a big pissy huff from the right over it.
In fact, if you do a term search, you can find it nearly exclusively in North American left-wing papers prior to 2010.
Are you able to show a push from right-wingers prior to that somewhere?
(EDIT: I’m not the one downvoting you, I’m genuinely interested in your perspective on this and would encourage others to hear you out before they do so as well.)
From what I’ve seen, the people who are doing the talking aren’t the ones who do most of the down-voting.
I don’t have references on this, it’s just my experience in the circles which I have spent time. I am gay, I have family who are “hand-out chick tracts and homeschool their kids” religious.
What I remember from people talking about gender roughly 15 years ago:
-The Christian Heritage Party voting family members were bringing up scary trans people trying to trick kids and university students into being gay by dressing up like sexy women.
-The friends of the guy I was dating at the time (White, cis, upper-middle class) would make trans jokes.
-Someone at the hardware store referred to themselves as “transgenderist”, and let people know that they were fine with being called he/she/they or xir.
-Some friends in university took gender studies classes
-Most of my gay friends and female friends weren’t fans of “traditional gender roles”
-The Christian Heritage Party family members were BIG fans of traditional gender roles
But most of the guys on the job site wouldn’t be talking, or caring about gender. I am not actually sure that most groups in the general public would really be concerned with gender 15 years ago.
I’m pretty sure that most members of the general public don’t really give a damn about the gender conversation today. Don’t mistake the loud voices of a shrill minority (right or left) with the opinions and beliefs of the majority.