• Melkath@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Here is what struck me recently about the Israeli people.

    Germans went genocidal because of the depression. Because they were starving. Because they were suffering. Because they needed something to rally around, and Hitler gave them the worst possible thing to rally around.

    Israeli’s live the good life. They are wealthy. They are protected. They want for nothing. They are the American socialist state that Americans don’t get the have, but pay for Israelis to have.

    They are genocidal because they are human trash. No other excuse.

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        9 months ago

        Yes. And their big robust US built defense systems block virtually all of those attacks, leading to virtually zero casualties or property damage, as they perpetually use big robust US built weapons to pummel the Gaza strip daily, where they have no defense systems, where constant massive loss of life and infrastructure are endured.

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          9 months ago

          Virtually zero is not only far from zero, it doesn’t excuse constant aggression.

          Hamas’ incompetence isn’t a defense.

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              9 months ago

              It’s not a genocide. It could easily be one given the technology difference. It’s clearly not one.

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                9 months ago

                The amount of bullshit you spew on a regular basis is pretty impressive. Your comment history is like an Israeli propaganda primer.

                “It’s not a genocide, they’re just killing more civilians than combatants and starving out the population by blocking humanitarian aid, just like past genocides. But this one is different because it you object you’re automatically an anti-semite!”

                Sure.

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                  9 months ago

                  “It’s not a genocide, they’re just killing more civilians than combatants

                  Every war in history kills more civilians than combatants. Normally that ratio is about 6:1.

                  starving out the population by blocking humanitarian aid,

                  Hamas is attacking aid trucks that are let in and stealing the aid to resell. It’s not starving the population to stop aiding the people attacking you.

                  The amount of bullshit you spew on a regular basis is pretty impressive. Your comment history is like an Israeli propaganda primer. … Sure.

                  Back at you.

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                9 months ago

                Right cuz 30,000 dead in 4 months is nothing. Did you think a genocide means every Palestinian is dead in 4 months? If that happened, every country on earth would have declared war on israel two months ago and every israeli official would be in prison for crimes against humanity.

                As it is, the vast majority of scholars and countries do recognize it as a genocide and even America, israels biggest supporter, is saying maybe they should stop the killing of innocent civilians.

                If the pace of killing and bombing keeps up for another year, I could guarantee a million Palestinians would be dead. Give me an exact number that israel has to reach before you admit it’s a genocide. Seriously, give me a number.

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                  Given the incompetence of the Hamas led defense, no 30k in 4 months is surprisingly low. Gaza is incredibly small and incredibly dense. They (the IDF) has to use incredibly modern munitions to airstrike single buildings and minimize collateral damage.

                  If the IDF went full Russia and simply WW2 artillery barraged Gaza similar to Bahkmut I’d expect 250k+ casualties.

                  If that happened, every country on earth would have declared war on israel two months ago and every israeli official would be in prison for crimes against humanity.

                  Unlikely.

                  Give me an exact number that israel has to reach before you admit it’s a genocide.

                  6:1 is the UN acceptable civilian to military casualty rate before they generally start investigating a conflict as a genocide. There’s an estimate 50k Hamas fighter in the Strip. That’s a theoretical headroom of 300k civilian casualties. That’s the number that would make me think it’s more than likely not a genocide.

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      9 months ago

      You forgot our sons, daughters and friends were massacared and kidnapped by Hamas and even by regular civs. So be sure we would not want to feed the hand that bite us and teach their sons to hate and kill us. Hamas and other countries can care for them (but they prefer to leave their people and run away in their tunnels), we should care for ourselves and our hostages first, if you want the war to stop and for them to get their aid release the hostages first. Such a shame you try to paint it like that, yet we still aid them even though what I wrote. Be sure no other country would do the same.

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          Yes, colonizer… same useless words. You are just antisemite. Israel has existed since 3000 years ago as the home/kingdom of the jewish ppl. Ofc we could live in peace if the palestinians didn’t terror us. Most of the world propaganda will always be against us. After what happend don’t expect us to be moral to those terrorists.

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            9 months ago

            To be called an antisemite by someone who applauds the genocide of 20k children is an honor. Rot in shit