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- femboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.
Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don’t call people eggs, like ever, it’s extremely uncool.
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Wait when did “egg” in the context of gender and sexuality become a thing?
“You egg” is an old insult in New Zealand since at least the 1980s meaning you are a dork or loveable idiot.
Edit: there’s heaps of examples in Taika Waititi’s NZ films.
Realising one is trans is often called “cracking your egg”. Calling someone an egg in this context means insinuating the person is trans (and hasn’t realised it yet).
@tb_ thanks, got it. Has it been a thing for many years or is it new?
Not many years, but far from new in internet time scales. Maybe in the last decade or so.
@jawa21 now that I’m really thinking about it, I think I’ve probably seen people using it to refer to themselves but not using it on others as an insult.
It’s similar to being in the closet. When you come out as a trans person, you “come out of your shell” so to speak. As such, people who haven’t are considered to be “eggs” still inside their shells.
I think if you make sure to call someone an “igg”, or preferably, a “bliddy igg”, then should still be fine
Preferably while listening to Iminim’s Lose Yoursilf.
@Viking_Hippie aww man now I know how Americans feel when people reference Trump’s stupid sayings as if it’s their national culture.
Hadn’t thought about those assholes in a while.
Sorry, but I had to 😁
@porous_grey_matter I think I just need to make sure I only use it on other Kiwis.
Not the birds, though. That would be the equivalent of calling them babies, which I’d imagine they’d find very insulting.
@Viking_Hippie if a bird is being an egg I will tell it. #nofilter
Fun fact: kiwi have the biggest egg relative to their body size of any bird in the world.
if a bird is being an egg I will tell it. #nofilter
Look at this badass talking at eggs! So principled! 😄
Shakespeare uses it too!
Fem boys aren’t an example of an egg anyways. If a person is calling a femboy an egg they are completely misunderstanding what an egg is.
Eggs are funny and sometimes adorable because they don’t quite know who they are and they give hints at who they want to be. A femboy is someone who knows who they are.
Femboys are boys and transgirls are girls.
It’s even in the fucking names
I don’t know why people can’t just let other people live their lives in peace.
I didnt know that was a slur
It’s not a slur, the point is that you don’t get to dictate someone else’s personal journey. Instead we tell our stories, and if that helps someone relate, it’s because our story resonates with their story.
It’s not really a slur, it’s just really uncool, as it makes assumptions about the person’s identity.
Everything can be a slur if we put our hearts into it ❤
Is this really real? Egg seems like such a fun and friendly thing to call someone, like saying they have a lot of potential! I don’t want look it up now cuz I’m gonna get my heart broken. Thank you at least for the warning, assuming you are being genuine.
It’s ok to call yourself an egg, but calling other people eggs is like saying “I know your gender identity better than you do”.
I’d say the only time it’s ok to call someone else an egg is if it’s past tense, if the person has transitioned, and if their transition is public knowledge.
Oof, that sounds so horrible! I’m not even sure that using egg in past-tense seems right. That feels like drinking with buddies when someone who’s known you your whole life starts regaling the group with the last time you peed the bed. Sure, it’s out of your control and there’s nothing to be particularly ashamed of, but why you gotta bring that up, yo?
I’ve always thought of it like the prime directive: you shouldn’t interfere, you should only be there in a supportive fashion when it happens.
An egg is a term in the LGBTQ community for someone who is exploring their gender or is in denial of it. When an egg cracks/hatches, a trans person has accepted who they really are. Calling someone an egg is telling them they’re trans, and is not something anyone should dictate about someone else.
Thank you for explaining that. That’s horrible and I’m saddened by how creative we are when it comes to tearing each other down…
it’s not tearing people down, it’s usually someone unintentionally doing something hurtful when they mean to try to help someone.
read the first section of this, it explains the issue (the egg prime directive) well: https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/am-i-trans
How can egg_irl memes then work? Seems like there’s a fine line with them.
Eggs and hatched eggs post memes about being an egg or questioning their own gender. Other people seeing the memes may or may not relate.
The issue is in telling someone they are trans. Read this if you’re really interested, the first section is about the egg prime directive and explains this concept and why it’s important really well: https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/am-i-trans
Beautiful I love it! 💜
untortunately it’s part of hon culture to call amab ppl who do steretypically fem things eggs
“hon culture”
/TTTT/ and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race.
Hard agree, I just got a case of the brainworms during my last mental breakdown phase (still ongiong). I did/do hate myself enough enough to browse it for a while (luckily I never rly posted/participated and only been there for a short while). Also deleted the app I used to acces the chans but I’m still sorry for all the ppl on /lgbt/ bc I feel the pain and dysphoria lvls
Some vocabulary, however, is just accurate and fitting imo.
Fyi: I’m against the full medicalization of trans-ness and think a model akin to the on of neurodivergency would be a good pov. (fuck truscums, tho as I said I feel sorry for their lvls of hatred, as I can very much relate).
But they are right about some things like the toxic positivity in many trans spaces, especially hugboxing.
There is a general rule in the LGBT+ community now we have a lexicon (and some indices) of terms by which you can navigate your desires, feelings and behavior.
That lexicon exists to help you sort out who you are. It’s not there for you to categorize other people. People really don’t fit into categories (in any sense) and there are always outliers and fringe cases.
If someone starts an I wonder if I’m an egg conversation, its okay to engage with awareness of comfort levels. We each are captains of our own respective identities.
The hardest thing for people to grok is identity ≠ behavior. The continued necessity of the closet means we are still not free to be our true selves in public. Yes, this can be weird, but even close friends can gatekeep by surprise. We need room to explore and be cautious, even if you, personally are dedicated to inclusion and tolerance.
So yeah, if someone seems enby or trans to you, they remain whatever they identify as, and only they get to decide when it is open to discussion.
The hell is an egg?? I’m a fluid femboy and I stg we get so lost in semantics man like what is this? Is this really a thing thats affecting people?
An egg is a trans person before they’ve realized/accepted they’re trans.
And we’re discussing this distant niche slur over other topics in the LGBT? I just dunno man:/ like you’d have to be so deeply in the know to call someone this
This is 196, don’t take it so seriously. It’s a thing that happens to femboys who are in trans aware circles/communities. This image is just a small psa and it’s valid. If you have another topic you want to discuss you’re free to make a post
