Switch to Linux!
From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1as1yjk/microsoft_in_their_infinite_wisdom_has_replaced/
Switch to Linux!
From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1as1yjk/microsoft_in_their_infinite_wisdom_has_replaced/
Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting… on Linux.
Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.
People be like:
tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.
But like, it’s Microsoft’s fault.
I don’t think this meme applies here. The person who’s mad isn’t the one using Windows. They got mad about a “problem” someone else was having and decided to use it as an excuse to push Linux.
Exactly. The Linux bros are not offering a solution. They are the same people as the “just move” people. Annoying ass trolls.
“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”
“Drop it and get an iPhone instead”
This is what you guys are like.
When people tell you to use Linux, they’re not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your “show desktop” icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.
Who asked you for help with our relationship? I believe someone complained about a random feature change. And here you are. Telling everyone to just fuck off and switch completely. It’s insane.
JFC people like you … You have like the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I’ve ever seen. I swear the only reason you are getting so angry and defensive when people recommend Linux is because deep down you know they’re speaking the truth.
And how well has that worked so far?
For people like me who took that advice: pretty damn great actually, thanks for asking!
How many people have you managed to convert in this thread?
Me! Switched to fedora from Windows about 3 years ago and don’t regret it one bit. Probably the best decision I’ve made in regards to personal computing in my adult life.
If you switched 3 years ago, you haven’t been converted in this very thread.
Even if it’s only one, I will have helped one person, unlike you who has only been bitching and moaning.
If that’s what you think will improve how the Linux community is perceived, then do go on.
I’m actually helping someone from this convert rn.
iPhone is $999+, Linux is completely free.
More like:
“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”
“Here’s a custom ROM you can install instead” (but also glosses over a lot of the finer decisions that go into whether or not to choose to run a custom ROM)
Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.
You misunderstood what the metaphor was.
Are iPhones free now?
you don’t have to pay for a +1000$ device to switch to Linux. In most cases, you can just install it in the same machine you have Windows.
It’s more like replacing Samsung’s Android ROM with a custom ROM. Sure, you’ll have to learn new things to use it, but you don’t have to buy an iPhone.
Linux isn’t a solution if you play competitive multiplayer games, which most people do.
I’m upvoting you because I know what you’re trying to say. Personally I don’t have a lot of time to game anymore but I vote with my wallet and I try to only buy games on steam that are linux native. I have found a lot of great indy games this way and I don’t feel like I’m “missing out”. Still, I get it.
What??? Do you have a statistic on this like does most of the population of earth play call of street fortnite 20 or whatever “competitively”?
I think you are confusing “professionally” and “competitively”. Anyone playing to win is being competitive.
I don’t think that many people even play video games nevermind online ones nevermind competitive ones
https://truelist.co/blog/gaming-statistics
Like 41% which is more than I expected but only a tiny fraction of those use PCs
Is now permanently in my lexicon.
Fair, but also depends on which one’s.
~40-45% of them do actually work.
I am not sure if most people play competitive multiplayer games
“most people” = “most teens”. I don’t know any adult that plays competitive multiplayer games other than maybe CSGO.
there are 3 billion people playing videogames, most of them playing casual af shit like candy crush (https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers).
About “competitive” multiplayer games: have you tried proton? I myself was sticking with Windows untill i eventually tried it.
Linux is not a solution if you have a skill issue. The longer people have this kind of mindset you have, the longer Microsoft will pretend to be a monopolist, the longer they will behave like total shitheads towards their customers.
Lol yeah “most people” definitely do not play competitive multiplayer games. Are the other children in your friend group literally the only other humans you’ve ever met?
Your solution isn’t a solution though it’s like saying that the solution to drowning is to set yourself on fire. It’s just a different kind of problem.
No it isn’t.
It’s more like saying: if that guy you hang out with keeps pushing you into the water and you almost drown every time, perhaps you should stop hanging out with that guy.
Of course, that’s not what people who are in an abusive relationship typically want to hear.
It’s hardly a big deal, none of what Microsoft has done is really that annoying. Individually they are barely even noteworthy.
Switching to Linux is a huge pain in the ass to have to go through so Microsoft would have to do something seriously messed up for me to even want to put up with it. I’m not assuming that I could find equivalent programs that even ran on Linux.
This is literally how MacOS and long time Linux users feel when switching to Windows.
And how many people are telling Linux users to switch to Windows?
Not many, but you’d be surprised.
That’s exactly the kind of shit abused people say to justify staying with their abusive partner. (“Oh it’s not so bad” - she says with a black eye - “and he’s really sweet normally”)
Yes in the short term it can be painful to leave an abusive person you’ve come to depend upon, but in the long term it’s always the better solution.
Literally abusive relationship cope. LMAO.
And in this case they aren’t even drowning. They have a slightly annoying icon in the corner of their screen.
As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It’s not like we don’t know it exists, we don’t need constantly reminding that it’s an option.
Although it isn’t an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don’t run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It’s tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.
If Linux is not for you that’s understandable. The thing here is that they are not having a conversation about Microsoft. They are having the pettiest, least technical possible discussion about Linux, it’s devolving to pure clique shit talking.
If you want to talk about Microsoft, just talk about Microsoft.
Problem is, whenever you try taking about Microsoft, someone just has to interject and be like “yeah you should be using Linux instead”
Then stop talking about Microsoft
/s
I’d just like to interject for a moment…
Why is micro shit even the first choice? Go ChromeOS or something cool. Smh
Because MS puts work into backwards compatibility, so the business who paid someone to write an app for them 30 years ago can still use it today on a Win11 box. No shot of that happening on macOS, who has deprecated PowerPC and 32-bit support, and Linux is just too much of a wildcard.
Or how about
I keep telling Linux is still not for common home use for users who are in between power users and people only using it for browsing. This will get me downvotes here on Lemmy all the time . Linux edge lords are their own bubble.
All but one of your points here appear to be your lack of understanding Linux and/or user error. Point 4 (2) is understandable due to Windows just being the default and most popular choice.
And that’s exactly the fucking point. It’s a terrible idea to tell people to switch. Cause they don’t understand it.
For point 2, that is true and improving. Always do some research about program compatibility before completely changing your computer’s OS.
For point 3. Programs are generally installed in
/usr/binand~/.var/appfor Flatpaks (analogous to MS Store). Much easier than finding where MS store apps are installed.Never come across point 4, so I can’t dismiss it.
As with 2, depends on your usecase
GNOME Disk manager (comes with Fedora and Ubuntu) has options to mount drives to arbitrary locations if needed.
I understand your argument but making points like these don’t really contribute to the discussion.
Well maybe stop suggesting that the solution to every tiny little cosmetic inconvenience is to completely switch operating systems to one that has notoriously flakey hardware support.
I would say “notoriously flakey hardware support” is a false statement these days
Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro’s built-in update button completely trashed the system.
But it doesn’t have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!
Nope. And that’s the problem and why people like us tell the Linux fan boys to fuck off.
Ah yes notoriously flakey hardware support. Like Microsoft doesn’t used it to power their entire cloud platform. The hardware support argument is dying tbh used to be true about 20 years ago
Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro’s built-in update button completely trashed the system.
But it doesn’t have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!
Maybe try another distro?
Also I’m curious. What distro were you testing with?
The last time I tested the waters it was with Debian, Mint, and Ubuntu. Each one had some kind of issue on my system that made me give up.
I usually check in once a year or so to see if things have improved.
These are all Debian based. Debian is notorious for using old kernels and spotty hardware support. I had similar issues trying to install Ubuntu on a new-ish PC recently. Fedora worked like a charm though.
I was tempted to try Nobara since it was a gaming pc but I was discouraged by opinions from the community telling me it was not exactly the best idea.
Next time I might go for Bluefin though. It’s based on Fedora Silverblue (immutable OS) and I’ve heard great things about it. Apparently also has GPU drivers for NVIDIA baked-in, which I need.
Sounds interesting enough to give it another shot when I have some time.
That’s really weird. What kind of hardware have you got?
It’s nothing crazy. All built within the last 3 years. I know the biggest issue is caused by having an Nvidia card. I can get the exact specs for you once I get home.
Maybe suggest a solution instead of a fucking entire new OS. It’s like the “just move” people.
I guess people downvoting you are thinking of Brother printers, AMD graphics cards and Intel WiFi cards. Sure, it’s great when you have the right hardware, but what if you don’t. I’ve banged my head against Optimus and Broadcom, until I learned to be extra picky when buying a laptop.
I rarely see that,. But what I see all the time is Linux lovers being toxic fanboys trying to shove their “passion” down everyone’s throat. Also, 99% of them being wrong about what it can “offer”.
Its a pure superiority complex fanbase.
Complaining about Linux and Linux users happens in every Windows-related thread, and you are doing it right now.
As a slight aside I am also sooo tired of people calling talking about something “shoving down our throats”. People talking about someone you don’t care for is not physically assaulting you. That expression seems to exist solely for people to wind themselves up over stuff that absolutely doesn’t justify that level of outrage.
Fanbase because the philosophy is based on owning your computer. If some asshole you don’t know needs your trust to run their closed-source-no-one-really-knows-what-it-actually does inside what is no longer really your computer just because you paid for it then here…here’s a dum-dum. Hands you a sucker.
‘Just switch to Linux’ isn’t a solution to a problem. It’s a tired and lazy ass response that is frankly starting to make me dislike this place.
When “this lemon is too sour” is the problem, maybe “here, try this orange” is the solution. Can you imagine responding like “No! People are always talking about oranges! I’m sick of it and won’t try one!” Ridiculous…
Trying an orange is a lot easier than creating a boot USB, copying all your files over to an external hard drive, installing a new OS, fixing weird things like the graphics card having crap performance or the laptop screen brightness not dimming, learning the weird 3 letter file structure, being bogged down by apt-get vs snaps vs flatpak and adding repos (why not search and download an .exe like a normal OS), realizing that your more specialized programs don’t work, etc.
Besides, it’s not just ONE person, seeming everyone says it every time a lemon has a scratch or a blemish or too many seeds. And then they dramatize it by calling it an “abusive relationship”.
Yup. I’m about over lemmy cause of this shit. Linux bros are worse than vegans.
OK well if you’re looking for the actual solution to the problem brought up in this thread… here: https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=i.imgur.com%2fnHEcFG2r.png
How much more practical it is to complain about users of a different system than the one the thread is about? It got to a point people are doing this preemptively even.
I mean “Just fix Microsoft and change its direction to be less consistently hostile and disrespectful of users” is a solution…
“Put an end to the data and attention harvesting economy” is another.
…but…switching OSs was easier for me personally, until we figure out how to wrangle a tech behemoth or fix underlying problems with human civilization.
Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people spam “USE LINOOX INSTEAD!”
Fuck linux, the’ve had 30 years to make a consumer grade product but NoooOOooo all the devs spend their energy making 50 different weakly compatible distros that no one needs.
I’ll say it again, fuck linux. Fuck linux and its shitty community of elitist basement trolls.