America used to be a place you could come to work to be able to support yourself and your family.

Looking back over the last quarter century it seems to me that we’re seeing a reversal of this trend. American born citizens so overburdened by the failures of their country that they dream of moving somewhere they can support themselves, and maybe finally begin to live their lives.

What are your thoughts?

  • Fredselfish @lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Fuck this country get out if you can. We are at the end stages here and full on death of capitalism and birth of fascism coming.

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    It’s already cheaper to just move your kids to Europe for college. The next step in brain drain is them not coming back home. Then after that the US gets to fall apart at an accelerated rate. We’re already seeing systems like education fail because we don’t value the workers in them. Why would someone with a masters in education even bother coming home? When we run out of people getting public governance and engineering degrees then shit gets real. We can’t run the country on finance and business degrees. No matter how cocky they are.

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      My daughter speaks German, and briefly considered college in Germany instead of the U.S. She has been to several countries in the EU multiple times on her own as a teen, and still thinks of moving there after she gets her degree and some work experience. Unfortunately, top schools for her degree are not as accessible elsewhere. 97% job placement rate for surviving grads in her major.

      As a metallurgical engineer there’s work for her around the world upon graduation, in just about every industry from mining to cosmetics to renewable energy and recycling. But I won’t be surprised if she bails on the U.S. immediately, trading a likely six figure starting salary for quality of life.

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    This has proven true for me. I’ve since moved to Canada and my quality of life has improved in many ways. Just the free healthcare alone in Canada is enough for me to never move back to the states

    In many ways the USA does not care for it’s people.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      In many ways the USA does not care for it’s people.

      Not only that, we’ll allocate 800 billion a year for eight wars, then tack on another 100 billion for a war that isn’t even ours, and 98% of voters are still going to vote for the ruling parties next year. This is despite the fact that we’re all paying 30-50% more to live, college is unaffordable, health care is likewise unaffordable, the right to housing is evaporating before our eyes, and in a few years we will have to fight for water.

      • SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip
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        We have to look back at the great civil rights leaders of the 20th century. We must not accept oppression. We must work hard for a decent world for our descendants, not the ruling class’ “productivity”.

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      1 year ago

      How did you weigh out cold vs. no health care. I often think I’d rather die than be exposed to snow more than 1 time a year lol :/.

      Otherwise, CA sounds pretty awesome ngl. They need any more engineers ;)?

      • Hopps@lemmy.world
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        I’m on the west coast of Canada and I moved from Pennsylvania - the weather here is a milder version of PA. The summers get hot but not quite to the top end of PA’s heat, and the winters are much warmer than PA’s winters (sometimes it doesn’t even snow).

        So it depends where you live in Canada, a lot of places aren’t that different than a lot of states.

        But if you go way up north, that’s where you get to the places where most people think of Canada - cold and snowy.

        And yes, engineers are in very high demand (at least in my area).

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      “Yeah, I mean, I’d love to, but thanks in part to our aggressive foreign policy and proliferation of our scorched-earth financial system, it’s kinda hard to get a VISA for a lot of countries”

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    I got the hell out when I could. My life is so good now, especially since where I live now, owning a car is optional. I had always kept open the possibility of going back home one day – until Roe v. Wade was overturned. Now, I do not intend to go back anymore. I think I will be happier to remain an immigrant forever.

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    My ex and I share custody of our children. If it wasn’t for the fact that I want to actually be in my kids’ lives, I would have moved somewhere like Ireland or New Zealand years ago.

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      Germany’s looking-for-work visas required 5+ years in the field. I would have moved straight after university if they would have taken me.