I personelly think lemmy users doesn’t just have that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread .and people on lemmy seems to think they are absolutely right.
(EDIT :I am not saying i miss these thing or like them even though i kinda do i am just saying things like that were a part of reddit culture like how 4chan have their on culture. Like lemmy is supposed to be a reddit alternative but now there are no niche subs and everyone is too into politics it just doesn’t feel like a reddit alternative .) .
I have been on lemmy for more than 2 months and i mostly lurked or had temp accounts with different usernames (there were only one or two which i have now closed) but this place seems more serious than lighthearted fun but i will still stay here becuase f**k corpos . So these are my views and opinion what do you guys think ?
EDIT: I must include one thing which is on reddit i have never had a real account i just made one or two the entire time i used it which were throwaways that i used to view a post from “subs that are not reviewed” and may not be safe (unless in their app of course -logic.exe missing) or comment . Here i have aldready decided to create a permanent account and start contributing to the communities and i have only been here for 2 months. And i guess i just used reddit to access information and just didn’t felt the need to have an acc or contrubute .END RANT.
EDIT : DO READ THE EDITS.
EDIT : I AM NOT IMPLYING OR EVEN WANT ANYONE TO GO BACK I REALLY DO WANT LEMMY TO BE BETTER . I AM NIT SHOUTING I AM JUST AFRAID SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE WRONG IDEA . AND FOR WHAT ITS WORTH IN MY OPINION REDDIT IS SHIT COMPARED TO LEMMY. SO PLEASE NO ONE GO BACK AND IF YOU HAVE ANY REDDIT FRIENDS INVITE THEM HERE.
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The difference for me is Reddit started treating it’s loyal users like sellable assets. I loved Reddit, it was a comfort zone for a long time, but they betrayed my trust, so I left and I have no intention of returning.
I doesn’t matter if Reddit is really dead or not. They are dead to me.
Amen
Not just the amen, but the awomen and the achildren too.
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Nah, not everything is a gender issue. I respect rans people, but everything has its place and this is not the place.
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Nice! That’s a good reference. I’ve recently got to know some transgender people and I’m struggling to differentiate with what I read online and what’s actually real in that regard. I guess my issue here is that there’s a lot of loud folks out there who do a lot of meaningless, unnecessary complaining about gender issues and spoil the issue in the public eye. I guess I’m salty about that specificly right now. I’m also a bit drunk right now, so maybe that makes my whole point moot anyways.
I’m struggling to differentiate with what I read online and what’s actually real in that regard.
As someone who once had to navigate a very difficult work situation involving that, may I make a suggestion? Just forget the trans thing unless it’s front and center, take everything you’ve read and heard with a grain of salt, and let the people you’ve met just be themselves to you. Let them inform your ideas of who they are, themselves, directly, for better or for worse. They’re people first and foremost; in that sense the trans is secondary. Meet them in your shared humanity and you won’t go wrong.
I say that because they’re just people too, like you are, but sometimes trans people bring a whole world of hurt, betrayal, exclusion, rejection, and wounding along with them to the table that we normies cannot even begin to comprehend.
This was many years ago, back in the 90s, but I was in the bad situation I was in because the trans person saw ill-intent that did not exist – but it was because they’d had so much of that shit already they just weren’t able to see that no one had prejudice toward them in that specific situation. To simply be accepted was literally that new for them. Thus there was a whole lot of miscommunication, inadvertent offense given and taken, and far more drama than there ever needed to be all around. It got cleared up, and we all learned a lot, but it was hard for a while.
So just let them be themselves, and be as courteous as you would with any stranger. It’s the fastest way to equilibrium with anyone, but especially with people who are not used to just being allowed to be. They already know you’re uncomfortable, and that you probably don’t know how to deal with the whole thing, because that’s most of the people they meet. So if you’re just cool and normal to them, as you’d be to anyone else, you’ll be a breath of fresh air. Hope this helps.
Yeah dead to me too though now and again i go there for informarion with adblock of course.
Me too
Lemmy not catching on and Reddit dying aren’t mutually exclusive, unfortunately. I personally know quite many users who left Reddit, but never made the jump over to Lemmy, because they mostly stayed on Reddit due to particular communities. With those communities getting decimated during the APIcalypse and its fallout, they had little incentive to join Lemmy.
Ultimately my personal opinion is that Lemmy is going to persist, even if it doesn’t cross certain thresholds, it is still a part of the larger Fediverse and due to its interoperability, Lemmy can benefit from the success of the Fediverse, even when not being all that successful by itself.
Ultimately my personal opinion is that Lemmy is going to persist, even if it doesn’t cross certain thresholds, it is still a part of the larger Fediverse and due to its interoperability, Lemmy can benefit from the success of the Fediverse, even when not being all that successful by itself.
Exactly
It seemed to me like Reddit basically drove off half their content creators AND Lemmy didnt really steal too much of Reddit’s userbase (around 1%)
I stopped posting there when it was clear they were hell bent on enshitifying the site. It was kind of dead here for a while after that and still isnt where reddit was/is contentwise but its getting there slowly. It is certainly to a point where I dont feel like going back to reddit for anything.
It seemed to me like Reddit basically drove off half their content creators AND Lemmy didnt really steal too much of Reddit’s userbase (around 1%)
Yeah, this has been my experience as well. Reddit likes to say “all the shitty people left and went to Lemmy”, and they seem half right - a bunch of people did leave. But most of the content of reddit is extremely stale now. And most of the shitty people that left reddit didn’t go to Lemmy, they just fucking left.
Sure, some Lemmy instances have attracted garbage, but most of the threads here are like 1% of the amount of posts but 80% of the content I care about so it just feels more efficient. Less garbage to trudge through, especially in the comments.
Reddit: 80% absolutely vacuous memes or self references. Gimme gimme dopamine I want more pls. 20% political news
Lemmy: Same but more like 50/50. Small percentage of very satisfying human or creative content like Reddit of old. Also every person is convinced they’re right about everything and you’re a moron for thinking different.
Mastodon: Everyone’s a game developer or an artist, very high quality content but makes you feel useless in your life
Twitter: WTF why does Tucker Carlson live here now when did this happen
Bluesky: Lol
Meta: GREETINGS FEDIVERSE HUMANS. MAY I EXAMINE YOUR DATA FOR PURELY ETHICAL REASONS PLEASE
What’s blue sky ?
Invite only (up until a few days ago) Twitter 2.0
I was super excited for Bluesky back in the day, and in the interim before I got my invite approved I had moved on to Mastodon and friends, and now I’d be very surprised if it goes anywhere. I made no attempt to make use of the invite code I eventually got.
I kind of did this with Tildes.
Yeah, it has all the same problems that (pre-Musk) Twitter did. Centralization was never the problem, turns out. IMO it’s just the basic central premise that everyone is talking to everyone, all the time. When your brain does that, it’s called a seizure.
Plus tons and tons of furries, which like… you do you, but it becomes a huge ongoing effort just to keep furry porn out of a lot of the feeds, if that’s not your bag.
Yeah. Most of the success of a social network has nothing to do with “X software is better than Y software.” Reddit’s software wasn’t really that good, ActivityPub is kind of a janky protocol; it’s fine. The main success hinges on who’s on the network and the quality of the interactions to be had there.
Most of the success of a social network has nothing to do with “X software is better than Y software.”
Literally this. Most social networks are just less-featured versions of Facebook.
Twitter was originally Facebook with no media posts and character limits. And kind of cool that you could SMS it, but hands down just worse software that ended up taking off.
Instagram was originally Facebook but images only. Then they added video. It’s just less software, but also took off.
Snapchat was Facebook but you could only send pics/video and only directly to friends. And they just removed persistence so all your shit gets deleted. Literally just missing timelines and comments. Blatantly worse software. Popular as fuck, especially with zoomers.
Social media has never been about better software. Arguably Google+ had the best software in many ways (probably the most feature rich, but UI was objectively a problem), it’s fucking dead. Social media seems to do better when it has worse software.
Social media seems to do better when it has worse software.
Or maybe, just as with creative endeavors in general, limitations do more to focus and define a social network than to bind it.
Twitter with fewer people.
Is it foss or decentraliased ?
Exactly
Lemmy won but Reddit didn’t lose.
Lemmy culture was great during the initial exodus, but now sometimes I don’t feel like I belong here. On Reddit, you could often find your subculture. I want the fediverse to succeed tho.
Why not make the community you want? I made !micromobility and people seem to like it.
Do heelys count as micromobility?
I did. !streetwear@lemmy.world
I’m constantly on the verge of giving up on it because nobody posts except me 💀
You can do it!
I believe in you.
I think that’s the answer. But have to make a community with broad enough scope to draw enough people to be active I think? E.g. instead of fountain pens: writing instruments so you get the pen, pencil, typewriter, etc. fans.
Diluting a community’s purpose for the sake of subscribers doesn’t result in a compelling community, imo.
Perhaps not, idk. Although it sure seems like there is overlap in membership between hobby subs from other socials.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !micromobility@lemmy.world
Yeah exactly my thoughts
I don’t really care, as long as I can keep avoiding it I’m fine. I replaced my muscle memory which was what kept me going there for so long. For the rest, we’ll see how things go.
Ads. I loathe them. I will not engage with your community that forces adds.
Sure, I miss Reddit, and Youtube, and Netflix, etc., but I’m happier having stood for my principles.
I just think Kbin is neat!
Me too
that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread
I think that’s what people want to get away from for the most part.
I like the more serious discussions, and when there is humour it tends to feel more genuine than just a rehashed joke. Reddit definitely has more content though, and more discussion on specific communities (formula 1 being one example, here there’ll be 1-5 comments on a thread that on reddit will hit 200+).
Right now I use both, I think they both have their place, but I do prefer lemmy.
The top 3-5 comments on Reddit are always low effort jokes or puns.
I still try to be silly occasionally on lemmy even though my sarcasm is rarely noticed. I don’t care I still prefer it here.
I used to play a game where I guessed the top comment on a post. I was right more than I’d like!
Yeah, that’s pretty much it. I can’t go on r/all anymore without blocking 99% of subreddits. It’s all garbage. Meme after stale fucking meme and copies of memes and memes on top of memes inside of memes and ughhh. A waste of electricity and everyone’s time and the only reason anyone participates is because it give the illusion of social interaction without actually providing it. There are some decent niche subreddits that still have living communities, but a significant fraction of “interactions” on reddit generally are bots circlejerking bots to get their karma threshholds so they can spam with Spez’s approval. The general user isn’t allowed to use an app so they can force you onto the main app, but botspammers can abuse the API all day long because it give the impression of a userbase that doesn’t actually exist ahead of their IPO. I would guesstimate the number of active bots on reddit right now is higher than the number of active humans.
Fuck reddit.
Reddit feels very hollow to me, and it’s something I’ve noticed more having avoided it for several months. On the Steam Deck subreddit for example, nearly all the posts are ‘hey I just got my Deck!’ and it’s just people fishing for upvotes. Endless pointless posts and rarely any meaningful discussions. I don’t think Reddit is dying and I hope it doesn’t, because every now and then it’s super useful when you find some old post from 2011 where the poster had the exact same niche IT issue as you with a helpful solution. The culture in general over there sucks though.
I’ve found a good mix of serious and lighthearted content on Lemmy.
Yeah and not it’s not just with the Steam Deck either, it’s basically every hobby subreddit. 3D printing is a ton of “I just got my Ender 3 can’t wait to do my first print!”, Xbox is “Just got my Series X can’t wait to play!”, self hosting is “I just bought this Optiplex off eBay what should I host on it?!”, etc, etc, etc.
I stopped following a bunch of subreddits way before the API changes due to basically half my feed being crap like that.
On the Steam Deck subreddit for example, nearly all the posts are ‘hey I just got my Deck!’ and it’s just people fishing for upvotes.
Yeah i too hated that.
Honestly, I do wish more people used Lemmy, especially for more posts and engagement for certain communities. But also, I like the smaller user base on Lemmy. I only lurked on my old reddit account because it was too populated to have real discussion. Here I feel more comfortable commenting or posting because it feels like there’s a chance my comment will be seen. Also, I just don’t care all that much about being on social media anymore. Feels better to have more healthy activities.
If Lemmy ever picks up, great I guess. If not, oh well. As long as I don’t have to use that godforsaken reddit app, I’m fine.
Except that Lemmy did catch on.
It didn’t catch on to the point that it got as big as Reddit, but anyone who expected that is a fool. It caught on to the point that it’s viable - it’s not going anywhere. And as time goes on, it’s going to continue to grow. And that’s sufficient, and really IMO to its advantage. Lemmy has a different feel from Reddit, and I like it better. And the new users it attracts over time are going to be people who appreciate it. And if the bulk of the meme-regurgitating karma whores stay on Reddit, all the better for Lemmy.
I have no idea and don’t have the time now to check, but I’m curious what the initial user base for Reddit was when people left digg in comparison to the Reddit to Lemmy move, also how long it took for Reddit users to overtake digg users
Biggest difference between Lemmy and Reddit for me is that when I go to view my notifications every day and feel that apprehensive feeling of “Fuck, who am I fighting with/defending myself from now?”, it’s almost always good vibes and pleasant responses. Except when I criticize popular fantasy authors and make everyone mad for a day. But that’s on me.
All I care about is not being forced advertisements
and reddit’s worst part are here so reddit is now better.
Reddit’s worst part is Spez. I hope Spez isn’t here.
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What about those particular instances is so bad?
If you’re not familiar, r/ChapoTraphouse was the left wing version of r/The_Donald, complete with trolling and brigading. And like r/T_D, it got banned, then remade, then banned again, etc. Until most of their users switched to lemmygrad and hexbear, particularly the more toxic users.
I assume those are the instances from which I occasionally catch stray misc political statements that seem to be goading me into a fight.
They get bored quickly if you talk to them like people, they target people with tempers. Works well.
Who knows though.
Yeah, they absolutely goad you into a fight then report you for the exact same shit they do/say but you’ll get banned- they won’t.
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