Gentle reminder to everyone that support for #windows10 ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can’t upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:

  1. Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
  2. Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
  3. Try a beginner friendly #Linux distro like #linuxmint. It only takes about two months to acclimate.

@nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

  • Dima@lemmy.one
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    8 months ago

    Anyone that still wants a supported version of win 10, look into Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC (2021) - supported until 2032 and can be activated by MAS with HWID

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      I did that for my desktop because it has an tpm1 chip. Works like a Charme but for example the volume slider is still the windows 10 one. And what would I need windows hello for except for Logging in via faceid or something like that?

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          8 months ago

          thanks for explanation. I hope my Install doesn’t randomly break because Microsoft decided it should do so. I’d hate to throw windows away for some lightweight foss distro /s

          Edit: only reason for not having moved yet is just my lazy ass

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              Yeah I have been down that hole too it’s mostly all the online logins and sessions that I have collected over years of using that os(windows) and pc and some old data that I don’t really want to wipe but also don’t really wanna go through the hassle of copying the important stuff off of windows.

              Also some of the games that I played used to have such obnoxious anti cheat systems that I couldn’t imagine the hassle to get them to work to be worth it but thanks to the steam deck adoption has increased immensely since I last tried gaming on Linux.

              Wsl2 doesn’t quite do the trick for me it just makes me want the whole package but I use it for programming because I don’t know windows shell commands for shit and everything is tied into windows/ms at work^^

  • wersooth@lemmy.ml
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    it’s gonna be “funny”: I won’t create a personal account to login to crap 11 (because why should I, if you can’t login to a desktop OS without a 3rd party account, that’s not an OS, but a gatekeeper shit), which is mandatory. So, my work machine will become unusable, therefore in fact Microsoft put my work therefore my livelihood in danger… [edit: typos]

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      It’s not mandatory to have an account to run win11. Press shift+f10 during the install to open a command prompt. Enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO into the prompt, system will reboot, disconnect the internet, when it prompts you for internet click “I don’t have internet”.

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      Just this week I installed W11 on a laptop (temporarily, I just wanted to see how it ran on this hardware), and despite being connected to the it asked me, by default, for a username for the local account. I don’t know why, but it didn’t ask for a MS account first.

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        Was this a recent windows 11 version, from Microsoft directly? And what version of 11 (Home, Pro, etc) And what region?

        The OOBE changes based on a lot of factors, but generally speaking, most users will encounter the forced account creation screen.

        You can get around it by typing in “no@thanks.com” or some other bullshit. Or use the “Domain join instead” option, and then just…don’t join it to a domain.

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          Just an update because I just figured what happened: I booted the iso through Ventoy, and just saw today that by default Ventoy injects register entries to bypass the online account requirement (as well as the hardware checks). Good to know.

  • XEAL@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    How long until Steam drops support on W10?

    That’s the important event, lol

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    I know people like to hate on windows here but come on: 90 weeks is another ~18 months. It’s near the end of 2025.

    While absolutely true, what you’re saying, saying 90 weeks instead of any alternative (630 days!) Is just trying to make it sounds worse than it is to push an agenda.

    • 90 weeks is more like 20 month and i could calculate that off of my head by knowing that a year has 52 weeks. I would have struggled more with days.

      You could make this criticism about any date metric that it gets more or less easy to translate into a different metric.

      Weeks are perfectly fine and most commonly used in the business context.

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      You’re leaving out the context that the time limit should be way longer given how long previous versions of Windows have been supported. Ending Windows 10 support when they are is a deliberate effort to force adoption of Windows 11 and avoid the embarrassment of Windows 8’s failure. They learned it’s better to scare users into compliance than to actually attract them with well developed, feature rich software. The hardware requirements just make it more egregious.

      Stop giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt, they have demonstrated more than enough times they don’t deserve it. This is them strong arming users into doing something they don’t want to do, and it should be rightfully called out for what it is: shitty.

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        the time limit should be way longer given how long previous versions of Windows have been supported.

        What version would that be?

        • Windows XP: 2001-10-25 to 2014-04-08, ~12.5 years
        • Windows Vista: 2007-01-30 to 2017-04-11, ~10 years
        • Windows 7: 2009-10-22 to 2020-01-14, ~10 years
        • Windows 8/8.1: 2012-10-26 to 2023-01-10, ~10 years
        • Windows 10: 2015-07-29 to 2025-10-14, ~10 years

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

      • NekuSoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de
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        the time limit should be way longer given how long previous versions of Windows have been supported.

        The lifecycle of Win10 is actually pretty similar to that of the previous versions, which is about ~10 years. The only difference with Win10 is that it went without a successor for so long, that they’ve basically skipped one major release, leading to this relatively small timeframe between a new Windows and the EOL of the previous version.

        I agree though. Given the circumstances they should’ve made an an exception and increased the lifespan for at least one or two years.

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      It does, you can manually install windows 11 even without the hardware “requirements”

      Everyone is fear mongering over this. It’s the same shit how windows 10 didn’t officially support a bunch of systems but you could install it anyway.

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        Currently running a desktop on W11 on “unsupported hardware”. Even managed to get it onto a 15 year old machine running a first gen i7 920 and not even a hint of a TPM module as an experiment and it worked perfectly fine.

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    I don’t get why people are removing support for Windows 10. Nobody likes Windows 11 and Windows 10 is the most popular operating system with no change of that in sight.

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    8 months ago

    That is so misleading, when you can just disable the TPM 2.0 requirements with a single click in Rufus

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    8 months ago

    CLickbait bullshit and everyone that upvoted is responsible. This is stupid, you can do better.