I get you’re joking, but just in case there’s any earnestness there and you’ve been hurting your own feelings lately. I’d like you to know that acknowledging self loathing is honest introspection and a good first step, the self loathing itself is more like self harm and generally dishonest. If there is any honesty in it, try and practice more self compassion.
Shit’s tough out here, you matter and people care about you. Keep going friend :)
I appreciate the concern! I joke about my issues, so it’s like 50/50 a joke and it’s real lol
I have a very hard time with self compassion because I feel like it’s undeserved or a lie. If I hate myself for reasons x,y,z I feel dishonest expressing self compassion, I feel that the hatred is well deserved.
I’m horrible with double standards though: you’re a human and humans make mistakes and can change, but for me I would attack myself relentlessly lol
Of course you’re welcome. I’ve gone through similar thought patterns and it sucks to be stuck in a head space like that. Glad you’re half joking, rooting for you to lock down that second half.
I was being a little tongue in cheek because you were having a laugh about what you think of that art movement.
Postmodern art is better enjoyed with context. A urinal signed and put on a pedestal doesn’t mean or look like much of anything, but it’s more impactful when you understand the intention behind it –Duchamp and his fountain are worth reading about even though he pre dates the movement so it’s a little beside the point but he’s kinda the grandfather of the movement, so whatever he’s cool.
Classifying something as postmodern art isn’t about a shared aesthetic like renaissance, cubism, or pop art. It’s focus is typically less about the craft and more about the message. A lot of the time it’s mocking the status quo or the art world in general, other times it’s making a challenging statement in a challenging way.
“Comedian” or the banana taped to canvas seems like an artist phoning it in because their name has the value not the art anymore. Maybe it is just being silly and that’s all there was to it from conception to execution. On the other hand they worked on that for months, obessing over the type of tape and placement, chose the banana because it is iconic while also high risk to be wiped out from climate change and unveiled it in a studio in Miami.
If it’s only the former and this is a meaningless money laundering scheme like you suggested (most people laundering money don’t want global attention for only $150k). Even if that’s the case, we’re still talking about it 5 years later. So the purpose if art is fundamentally creating something greater than the sum of it’s parts then they fucking nailed it.
However you want to enjoy art is cool, but narrowing the definition seems like an arbitrary reason to limit what you can be open to enjoy. Context≠explaining it, though.
Didn’t mean to art-splain at you by the way, no offense intended.
Good question with a pretty ambiguous answer for anyone that’d try to answer.
For me it’s a combination of skill, intention, and impact. Like a shaky handed sharpie tag on a bus stop isn’t much of anything, but when it says, “kill your local heroin dealer” that’s impactful. The shaky lines start to show the styling they had intended but can’t capture anymore. I’d call that art even though it was painted over a week later.
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Good for him, brushing your teeth and honest introspection isn’t easy when you hate yourself. He’s right about that art though, derivative trash.
I find introspection the easiest part of hating myself, there’s so much to attack! Lol
I get you’re joking, but just in case there’s any earnestness there and you’ve been hurting your own feelings lately. I’d like you to know that acknowledging self loathing is honest introspection and a good first step, the self loathing itself is more like self harm and generally dishonest. If there is any honesty in it, try and practice more self compassion.
Shit’s tough out here, you matter and people care about you. Keep going friend :)
I appreciate the concern! I joke about my issues, so it’s like 50/50 a joke and it’s real lol
I have a very hard time with self compassion because I feel like it’s undeserved or a lie. If I hate myself for reasons x,y,z I feel dishonest expressing self compassion, I feel that the hatred is well deserved.
I’m horrible with double standards though: you’re a human and humans make mistakes and can change, but for me I would attack myself relentlessly lol
Of course you’re welcome. I’ve gone through similar thought patterns and it sucks to be stuck in a head space like that. Glad you’re half joking, rooting for you to lock down that second half.
Don’t be stranger if you need one. Good luck.
If you don’t like that art, let me introduce you to post modernism: 💩😘👍🚙⚫
Oooo so anti authoritarian with a dash esoteric symbolism.
That’s way better than what I have witnessed, there seems to be a meaning 🥲 !
Seen for real:
A car painted black.
A rack of clothing.
Magazines.
Seen on the internet:
Shit in a box
Ejaculate on magazines
…
The banana taped to a wall, sold for a lot is probably a try to laundry money or similar though.
I was being a little tongue in cheek because you were having a laugh about what you think of that art movement.
Postmodern art is better enjoyed with context. A urinal signed and put on a pedestal doesn’t mean or look like much of anything, but it’s more impactful when you understand the intention behind it –Duchamp and his fountain are worth reading about even though he pre dates the movement so it’s a little beside the point but he’s kinda the grandfather of the movement, so whatever he’s cool.
Classifying something as postmodern art isn’t about a shared aesthetic like renaissance, cubism, or pop art. It’s focus is typically less about the craft and more about the message. A lot of the time it’s mocking the status quo or the art world in general, other times it’s making a challenging statement in a challenging way.
“Comedian” or the banana taped to canvas seems like an artist phoning it in because their name has the value not the art anymore. Maybe it is just being silly and that’s all there was to it from conception to execution. On the other hand they worked on that for months, obessing over the type of tape and placement, chose the banana because it is iconic while also high risk to be wiped out from climate change and unveiled it in a studio in Miami.
If it’s only the former and this is a meaningless money laundering scheme like you suggested (most people laundering money don’t want global attention for only $150k). Even if that’s the case, we’re still talking about it 5 years later. So the purpose if art is fundamentally creating something greater than the sum of it’s parts then they fucking nailed it.
In my book, if you have to explain it, it’s not art, but eveyone can obviously have their opinion. And yeah I know about the toilet :-p
However you want to enjoy art is cool, but narrowing the definition seems like an arbitrary reason to limit what you can be open to enjoy. Context≠explaining it, though.
Didn’t mean to art-splain at you by the way, no offense intended.
Yeah no offence taken!
And well if someone says aah say wine is art or running is art, I’d still enjoy it ;-)
What’s art? Vast debate.
Good question with a pretty ambiguous answer for anyone that’d try to answer.
For me it’s a combination of skill, intention, and impact. Like a shaky handed sharpie tag on a bus stop isn’t much of anything, but when it says, “kill your local heroin dealer” that’s impactful. The shaky lines start to show the styling they had intended but can’t capture anymore. I’d call that art even though it was painted over a week later.