I downvote a lot of posts here because I don’t think they’re questions appropriate for this community. They’re either loaded questions, opinions, obvious bait, or asklemmy material.
If this community is supposed to be the Lemmy version of r/nostupidquestions, the questions should be things that you think should know but don’t. Things that might make you feel stupid asking.
A good question for this sub is “How often do I actually have to wash a hoodie?”
A bad question is “Why is [company] doing [something anti consumer]”
We get a LOT more of the latter here.
I appreciate your work. (sincerely)
Ah, I wasn’t familiar with the subreddit, so I was just taking it as a free for all, so no question is out of place. Especially as lemmy is smaller, and lacks enough traffic in niche communities, it makes sense to have a bigger community for just answering whatever comes to mind.
But obviously there’s issues with that, if the community was swamped it would make sense to have a stricter guideline.
I mean if this is gonna be a catch-all for every question ever, why do we need it when asklemmy exists?
Guidelines make communities unique. And why did we remake the sub if we weren’t going to continue the spirit of it?
The asklemmy ones are the annoying ones. It’s less a question and more a conversation starter
There’s one up now that’s basically “can someone recommend some songs to me?”
A similar problem would happen on r/ELI5 that drove me nuts. Originally the kinds of questions you were supposed to ask were things like “the origins of the Gulf war” or “the rules on how to play poker”. But instead there were too many questions that were like “what’s going on in my stomach when it growls”.
That might not be the best counter example. Now I’m interested in why exactly my stomach growls, and would probably need it explained in simple terms since I’m not a doctor.
“Can someone explain [complicated geopolitical conflict] to me like I’m 5?” were my least favorite. At least pretend you tried to get the answer yourself
There should be a rule where someone actually has to explain it as if they were explaining it to a 5-year-old.
That’s how the sub started. Answers were broken down into the most basic of analogies, it was great. But like most big subs, the rules got lax and it lost what made it special.
In my opinion, stricter posting rules make for a better community…as long as they’re not arbitrary.
perhaps you need a refresher… NO. STUPID. QUESTIONS.
Perhaps you completely missed the point if that’s what you choose to reply with
Yes.
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But those aren’t stupid questions, they are questions very smartly crafted to imply a certain answer or legitimize a problem. Then they are not stupid, but smart. And often evil.
you mean like telling people how ‘you’ disregard some questions in a sub that’s supposed to be open to any and all questions because ‘you’ feel like ‘you’re’ too important to take them seriously?
lol!
Well, mods could remove the downvote button if it’s not supposed to be used.
it’s misused anyhow, just like reddit. imagine that.
It’s not about “stupid” for me but about the amount of loadedness in a question. There are indeed no stupid questions - but there are stupid assumptions.
Even one answer from. OP in it’s often easy to see if they want to generate knowledge of search confrontation.
a ‘loaded’ question doesn’t have to be malicious. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
If someone says that, I assume they intend to use malice and blame it on stupidity so they don’t look malicious.
Well, it’s a thing called Hanlon’s Razor, so maybe look it up?
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Or it might just be offensive or a dog whistle.
ive wanted to make an alt account and name it something like dog, and just bark at comments that hurt my ears
What’s a dog whistle?
It’s a shibboleth, a way of asking a question that people who share your ideology will recognize as pushing it, while those who do not will not. This is like a dog whistle that can be heard by dogs but not by humans.
In question form it’s also often subtle propaganda, asking a question that presupposes something controversial, like “Why are trans players allowed to win so much on sports?” where the simple shibboleth might be “Should trans players be allowed in sports?” Both are confronting the same point, but the former assumes a trend that has not been demonstrated, while the latter simply assumes some reason without making it clear what the reason is.
An actual dog whistle sounds at a frequency (?) inaudible to humans but is heard by dogs. The “secret phrase” can be said out loud, but like the whistle, only the big dogs hear it - the rest of the humans don’t. Does that make sense? It’s used as an analogy.
urban dictionary Dog whistle is a type of strategy of communication that sends a message that the general population will take a certain meaning from, but a certain group that is “in the know” will take away the secret, intended message. Often involves code words.
Republicans say they want to make civil rights for gays a state issue, which is really just a dog whistle strategy for saying that they will refuse to grant equal rights on a federal level.
That’s such a bad example for a good definition
Hmm I wonder why muscilunge said 88 million in this tweet? It could have been any number, right? Why 88?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1596439328338890752
What do you think, dog?
Just a dog: bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark
Erhm… Could you explain what that means?
In case this is genuine asking, here’s the coded logic dogwhistle:
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet So 88 = HH, which was used in WW2 communications by the Nazis for Heil Hitler.
So people who just so happen to randomly put 88 into a random thought online are signaling to the people in the know that they’re also in the know.
Before you say “but thats stupid and childish, why would anyone go through that much effort to hide their shitty beliefs that way?” that’s exactly the purpose of dogwhistles. It’ high effort enough that normal people wouldn’t expect anyone to put that much childish effort into it, and anyone who points out the dog whistle looks crazy to the normies because of how childish it the dogwhistle is and the dogwhistlers get to feign innocence being attacked by the twitter mob over a number.
I appreciate the actual explanation. I was genuinely asking, although I thought the commenter’s reply was much funnier.
What a world we live in.
Random thought; a twitter nazi decoder ring could be a really funny novelty item
Simple answer is : yes
The problem is everyone is going their own way with it.
Do we have a highthoughts sub for questions like this?
Sounds like a philosoraptor question.
I’d upvote this post. It’s spot on.
Yes.
Yes
People have their own reasons for downvoting. NSQ is for questions that could be considered “stupid” by people in more judgmental settings. When I downvote NSQ posts it’s because I suspect soapboxing or an agenda, not an honest question. Or, in some cases, because it seems people take “no stupid questions” as an outright challenge.
This is why I stick with kbin. did you downvote me? would be a shame if I literally never find out.
Either option is viable. Depends on the question. Usually things are either downvoted because it’s too stupid to be a legitimate question and it’s clearly just someone being inflammatory, or it’s a question that, while arguably stupid, doesn’t really fit with the idea of the community.
“What are your thoughts on photosynthesis” is a post that’s -2 right now. It’s probably getting downvoted because it’s just a fucking question. It’s kinda stupid, but only in the sense that I have no clue what they’re wanting to hear about photosynthesis. It doesn’t fit the community. Goddamnit I still instinctively type subreddit. It would work better for a general discussion community.
Sometimes there’s a rare question that’s actually incredibly stupid and clearly not someone trolling, but they give zero further information. Like “Could time start moving faster due to climate change?” How do you answer something like that without knowing how the hell they came to that conclusion? “No.” isn’t exactly a satisfying response, but it’s pretty much the only one you’ve got.
Hell, your question isn’t a particularly great example of a ‘no stupid questions’ question. It’s really more of a shower thought.
Yeah, I figured I’d get more relevant answers asking it here rather than !showerthoughts@lemmy.world or anywhere else. It is a bit meta though, might have been better posted on Friday
Serious answer, the question might be one that broke one of the community rules like Rule 5 (“No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda”) or Rule 6 (No meme or troll questions, except on Fridays) and voters are expressing their displeasure.
Silly answer, the question wasn’t stupid. The name of the community is actually “No, Stupid Questions.” The missing comma is a typo.
Rule 5 (“No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda”)
That has the problem of blocking genuinely stupid questions that could be used to educate away ignorance. Instead the only people willing to answer their questions are nut jobs with an agenda. E.g.
Do black people sun burn?
Would get downvoted for being racist cos everyone must know the answer to this (I don’t)
Where does the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ originate from?
Everyone would assume you’re antisemitic instead of educating you on conspiracies by Nazis and Russian slike The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But you know who does answer? Those conspiracy theorists who are more than happy to give you (wrong) answers!
Do women get horny?
Everyone assumes an ‘incel agenda’ cos it’s OBVIOUS what the answer is. No it’s some poor 13yo kid who’s unsure about things so they asked. But you know who does answer (wrongly) those questions liberally? Andrew Tate is FULL of answers and sends them down a very dangerous rabbit hole.
I can’t help feeling a lot of the modern shift towards alt-right bollocks is an almost elitist attitude that everyone has an agenda and there’s no such thing as ignorance anymore. I’m sure that was QAnons next level goal. Sow distrust in people so they refuse to answer questions (downvote, shutdown, ignore) while providing (wrong) answers to people themselves.
As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to realise Hanlons Razor covers SO much more than people realise.
Stop assuming malicious “agendas” behind everything. At the least don’t downvote things. At best answer people genuinely.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Every so often, Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards mentions this. I want to know what it is so badly, but also don’t want that shit in my search history
I’ve been on the internet since '98, I’ve had worse in mine so here ya go rofl (mind the wikipedia notations, I wanna inform but I’m also lazy):
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian: Протоколы сионских мудрецов), or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion (Протоколы собраний ученых сионских мудрецов), is a fabricated text purporting to detail a Jewish plot for global domination. Largely plagiarized from several earlier sources, it was first published in Imperial Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.
Beginning in 1933, distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if they were factual, to be read by German schoolchildren throughout Nazi Germany,[1] although the text had been exposed as fraudulent by the British newspaper The Times in 1921 and by the German newspaper Frankfurter Zeitung in 1924. Today, it remains widely available in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by antisemitic groups as a genuine document. It has been described as “probably the most influential work of antisemitism ever written” since it emerged from Russia shortly before World War I.[2]
Holy shit thank you. I’m always in the car or somewhere where you can’t just casually look something like that up, and by the time I get home I forget. Also the whole feeling awkward about looking it up. It seems like one of those oddly specific things where you kinda have to already know what it is to ask about it (if that makes sense), so it seems suspicious to be asking questions about it
My record for most downvoted post was when I asked how much people tip their landlord. Didn’t even get any good advice. I got a new landlord and just wanted to make sure he has enough to feed the kids and cover the mortgage.
