• PugJesus@kbin.socialOP
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    10 months ago

    No, Hamas are not good guys. No, Hamas are not innocent of desiring and working towards ethnic cleansing of Israel. No, this does not justify Israel’s ongoing genocide.

    "We are looking forward to two important things, which are within sight: The first is the cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews, and their uprooting from it, Allah willing. This is within sight. Four years, my brothers… By 2022, we will be rid of them… The second thing is the establishment of the Caliphate, after the nation has been healed of its cancer – the Jews – Allah willing…

    “It is unacceptable that the Jews control some of the Arab states – their regimes, their armies, and their security agencies – while the peoples remain oppressed. Oh peoples of the Arab and Islamic nation, oh Palestinian people, you possess a concealed power that you can detonate in the faces of the Jews and the hypocrites. We expect another Arab Spring from you, with new characteristics – a second Arab Spring, which will focus on the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Allah willing. We are your embers and your fuel, Allah willing.”

    • Fathi Hamad, high ranking member of Hamas’s political bureau, 2018

    “There was a series of 120 deportations of Jews from Europe. This was because they betrayed the people among whom they lived, and worked against the interests of the societies that sheltered them. They betrayed those societies, in which they lived as spies. For example, they spied against the Persians for the Byzantines. These [Jewish] groups corrupted the societies in which they lived through usury, the worship of money, extreme miserliness, and bribery. Those nations considered them to be anti-Christian. The [Jews] lived in Europe according to the principle of rejection of non-Jews, whom they call Gentiles. They embraced the notion of the Jews being the victims throughout history, in order to take over Palestine.”

    • Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, one of the founders of Hamas, 2017

    “[R]emoving the Jews from the land they occupied in 1948 is an immutable principle because it appears in the Book of Allah.”

    • Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, one of the founders of Hamas, 2018

    “If we look back at history, we see that [the Jews] were abhorred in the time of Nebuchadnezzar. This is also true of the times of the Assyrians, the Romans, and the Prophet Muhammad. They betrayed him. They were treacherous against him, and he expelled them from the Arabian Peninsula. Even Hitler hated them, loathed them, and got rid of them. However, everything people say about massacres and Holocaust – these are all lies. Hitler may have hated them, but it was because of their deeds and crimes. Hitler was no less of a criminal than them.”

    • Marwan Abu Ras, Hamas MP, 2019

    “Those [cowards] who quake with fear, those who cooperate and collaborate [with Israel], those who normalize relations with the occupation will be gathered with the apes and pigs in the Hellfire. Do you know who the apes and pigs are? They are the Jews who Allah transformed into apes and pigs.”

    • Ismail Radwan, Hamas Minister of Religious Endowments, 2018

    “Over is the time Hamas spent discussing recognizing Israel. Now Hamas will discuss when we will wipe out Israel,”

    • Yahya Sinwar, leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip

    When Sinwar would tell him [Ehud Yaari, a fellow of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who interviewed Sinwar in prison four times] Israel must be destroyed and insist there was no place for Jewish people in Palestine, “he would joke, ‘Maybe we’ll make an exception of you’”.

    “We cannot, in exchange for money or projects, give up Palestine and our weapons. We will not give up the resistance… We will not recognize Israel, Palestine must stretch from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea.”

    Ismail Haniyeh, current leader/chairman of Hamas, in 2020

    “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”

    Hamad Al-Regeb, an official Sheikh (elder official) of Hamas, 2023

    “Therefore, we are convinced that if a total conflict begins, the airspace and seaports of this entity will be shut down, and they will not be able to live without electricity, water, and communications.”

    Saleh Al-Arouri, now-deceased Deputy Chairman of Hamas, 2023

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      10 months ago

      While you are right, it is important to consider that Hamas has very low support in the population of Palestine, similar to Netanjahu and his fascist government having rather little support in the Israeli population.

      The corrupt and criminal leaderships of both countries are fighting a war for their own advantage and civilians on both sides (though ~20x Palestinians than Israelis) are dieing for a war they just want to end.

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        10 months ago

        I think from polling data the majority of Israelis support the war with pallestine/Netanyahu. And similarly the majority of Palestinians support Hamas and violence against Israel

        That’s what makes this so difficult. If Hamas had no support it would probably be easier to deal with them

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          Netanyahu has become very unpopular since Oct 7, and the Israeli media has been involved in a borderline criminal level of self-censorship about the war.

          Hamas does have widespread support, but at least some of that is because they’re the only game in town in Gaza, short of embracing genocide. Admittedly, because Hamas has put great effort into making sure they’re the only major player allowed to operate in Gaza.

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        10 months ago

        But you’re still happy putting all the blame on Israelis (and not the Arab ones, just the Jewish ones). All because you Westerners decided that you’ve had enough of hating Arabs and now want to protect them. I still remember 2001 though, and all the hate you guys spewed, so I’m not buying it. I still remember all the western citizens calling for the destruction of Palestine when it became known that they were against your war on terror.

        But now your corporate news sources are telling you it’s time to love the Arabs and hate Israel, so y’all are all in.